In message <20051019162936.GA13001@panix.com>, Thor Lancelot Simon writes:
>On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:08:28AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> It seems that there are some diag tools, which presumably use some
>> ioctls in sys/dev/ic/ath.c, and these are in FreeBSD userland but not
>> NetBSD.  It should be reasonably straightforward to bring them in
>> (modulo arguments about where the sources and the binaries should go :-).
>
>I don't believe they should go in the base distribution *at all*.  We
>already have an absurd profusion of fooconfig and foodiag programs and
>we should be working on making the problem better, not worse.
>
>We have a dynamic sysctl framework.  If we must ship a program named
>"athdiag" or the like, why can't it be a shell script wrapper?
>
I haven't played with the FreeBSD tools, but not everything is easily 
done as a sysctl.  For example, Sam mentioned to me that
"'athstats 1' gives a rolling display that's useful."  If I recall 
correctly, another tool traces state transitions.

		--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb