RE: Additional thoughts on text transfers

[Richard Whalen <Whalenr%process.com@localhost>]

The attitude of "the only systems that matter are Unix and Windows" will
prevent the SSH File Transfer Protocol from advancing past its current state
as I believe that it is technically flawed in its current state.  I am
willing to follow the procedures in RFC 2026 if necessary.

----------------------
Richard Whalen
Process Software



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Altman [mailto:jaltman%columbia.edu@localhost]
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: Richard Whalen
> Cc: 'ietf-ssh%netbsd.org@localhost'
> Subject: RE: Additional thoughts on text transfers
> 
> 
> Richard:
> 
> Many of us in the community have raised these issues before.  The vast
> majority of the SSH development community is on Unix.  The vast
> majority of the rest is on Windows.  Between the two groups they do
> not see this as an issue because they are not affected by the scale of
> the M x N problem which is alleviated by defining a standard on the
> wire representation for End of Line.
> 

- Jeff


> Text files are still in high usage, even with new (often proprietary)
> formats that may not be converted.
> 
> Source code for programs are generally stored as text files, and the input
> for programs may be text files as well.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Markus Friedl [mailto:markus%openbsd.org@localhost]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:39 AM
> > To: Richard Whalen
> > Cc: 'ietf-ssh%netbsd.org@localhost'
> > Subject: Re: Additional thoughts on text transfers
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 08:50:05AM -0500, Richard Whalen wrote:
> > > Since modern day files may be encoded in a variety of 
> > textual formats the
> > > client and server need to come to an agreement on a format 
> > when exchanging
> > > text files.
> > 
> > Modern day files are binary documents (pdf, doc, viruses), so no
> > conversions is necessary.  SFTP is slim and simple, you can do text
> > conversion in you client application based on suffix-heuristics,
> > for example.
> > 
> 



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