Re: A text transfer mode is needed for the SSH File Transfer Protocol

[Joel Jaeggli <joelja%darkwing.uoregon.edu@localhost>]

On Fri, 10 May 2002, Dan O'Reilly wrote:

> SCP = RCP on steroids
> 
> Therefore, is it unreasonable to assume that sftp would be more robust to
> be able to handle all types of file formats, not just those common to the
> UNIX world? 

a file transfer application should not alter files. it makes it very hard 
to do things like compute the md5sums of  a file before and after transfer

I think what seems to bug people is that sftp isn't a drop-in replacement 
ftp. why should it, there are lots of things that are obsolete or just 
plain bad about ftp.

> The root problem is that scp/sftp (in fact, all of SSH, for
> that matter) is VERY UNIX-centric, and unfortunately, that's not the total
> state of the world...
> 
> At 12:15 PM 5/10/2002, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> >which assumes that sftp should treat text files like ftp does rather than
> >like rcp does.
> >
> >I'm not at all convinced that sftp should do that.
> >
> >joelja
> >
> >On Fri, 10 May 2002, Richard Whalen wrote:
> >
> > > We have had a few customers report problems when transferring text files
> > > between dissimilar systems with different implementations of the SSH File
> > > Transfer Protocol.  I believe that these problems would not exist if the
> > > protocol was able to correctly deal with the differences in the way that
> > > different systems store text files.
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > > Richard Whalen
> > > Process Software
> > > 508-879-6994x261
> > >
> >
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