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Re: DH KEX names an "aberration"?



On Friday, February 04, 2005 09:36:37 AM -0700 Joseph Galbraith <galb-list%vandyke.com@localhost> wrote:

Chris Lonvick wrote:

   [...] This inconsistency should not be repeated.  The naming
   of future specifications of Diffie-Hellman key exchange using Oakley
   groups defined in [RFC2412] or its successors should be performed
   with forethought and care.

I don't recall the results of the coin toss, and it isn't
clear from this.  So how about one of the following, depending
on which way the toss went:

   Additional methods may be defined as specified in [SSH-NUMBERS].
   Note that for historical reasons the name
   "diffie-hellman-group1-sha1" is used for a key exchange method using
   an Oakley group as defined in [RFC2412].  Subsequently, the Working
   Group attempted to follow the numbering scheme of group numbers from
   [RFC3526] with diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 for the name of the second
   defined name.  Future groups borrowed from [RFC2412] should continue
   to use the same numbering scheme used by [RFC3526].  However, without
   specific IETF action, no addition groups from [RFC3526] are valid in
   the SSH protocol.

OR:

   Additional methods may be defined as specified in [SSH-NUMBERS].
   Note that for historical reasons the name
   "diffie-hellman-group1-sha1" is used for a key exchange method using
   an Oakley group as defined in [RFC2412].  Subsequently, the Working
   Group attempted to follow the numbering scheme of group numbers from
   [RFC3526] with diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 for the name of the second
   defined name.  Future groups borrowed from [RFC2412] should not attemp
   to use the same numbering scheme used by [RFC3526], but should
   use numbering unique to SSH.  I.e., the next group defined for SSH
   should be diffie-hellman-group2-sha1, regardless of it's source.

I think I prefer the phrasing "[RFC2412] and its successors". Otherwise, Joseph's text looks good.

-- Jeff



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