SSH v3?

[denis bider <ietf-ssh3%denisbider.com@localhost>]

Very much agreed.

Here's my wish:

SSHv3 is based on UDP, not TCP.

I actually have a whole spec for that ready-made, which includes things like negotiating encryption + authentication as one thing...

Heck, if you guys want to work on that, here's the spec:

https://www.bitvise.com/files/EfficientSecureTransport.pdf

The initial defined algorithms are kinda arbitrary and trivial to substitute. I was going to put in Ed25519 and AES GCM, but I didn't have access to that at the time, so I put in something I had access to.

I actually have a platform-independent C++ implementation, too.... Complete, just never tested.

Do you guys want to work on this?


----- Original Message -----
From: Damien Miller 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 05:48
To: Simon Tatham 
Cc: Niels Möller ; Simon Josefsson ; ietf-ssh%netbsd.org@localhost 
Subject: Re: Binary packet protocol rethink (was: Re: ChaCha20-Poly1305 for SSH)

While we're dropping wishlist items for SSH v.3, here's one of mine:

Key exchange negotiates an AEAD rather than a cipher and a MAC
separately, and does so from a greatly trimmed set of options. E.g.
AES-GCM, chacha20+poly1305 and an AES-CTR+HMAC mode.

IMO the AEAD primitive is the right metaphor for the security properties
of the SSH transport protocol. Removing the large cartesian product of
ciphers x MACs will make testing faster and binaries smaller too.

-d