Re: Old Binary Packages/Sources (NetBSD/i386 1.5.3)?

[Alistair Crooks <agc%pkgsrc.org@localhost>]

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Many thanks,
Alistair

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:40:54PM +0000, The Beyonder wrote:
> Perry,
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> On Wednesday 11th August 2010 we outlined our motivation for using 
> NetBSD/i386 1.5.3:
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> "One reason we went with NetBSD/i386 1.5.3 was that [ 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBSD ] states that 1.5 was released December 
> 6, 2000" and [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware ] states that Slackware 
> 7.0 was released circa 2000 (a little before if we can read the figure 
> correctly)."
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> [ http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/08/13/msg012571.html ]
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> On Sunday 22nd August 2010 we expanded on our motivation:
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> "This was compounded by the fact that Slackware 7.0 was running happily on 
> the machine beforehand and NetBSD/i386 1.5.3 seemed close to the Slackware 
> 7.0 release date. The dates were significant to us for the "complexity" of 
> the kernel, userland and older packages, i.e. the RAM, diskspace and 
> processing speed issue."
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> [ http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/08/22/msg012626.html ]
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> Also, as mentioned on Sunday 22nd August 2010:
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> "The NetBSD 5.0.2/i386 GENERIC kernel (alleged) causing the 486 to halt in 
> contrast to the older NetBSD/i386 1.5.3 GENERIC kernel (alleged) booting 
> successfully was a significant motivating factor for using the older release."
> 
> [ http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2010/08/22/msg012626.html ]
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> The use of "believe" in this context refers to the kernel used on the 
> boot1.fs disk image? [ 
> ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-1.5.3/i386/installation/floppy/
>  ] ( and the NetBSD/i386 5.0.2 equivalent ) rather than the knowledge of 
> whether the machine booted.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
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> --- On Sun, 22/8/10, Perry E. Metzger <perry%piermont.com@localhost> wrote:
> 
> > From: Perry E. Metzger <perry%piermont.com@localhost>
> > Subject: Re: Old Binary Packages/Sources (NetBSD/i386 1.5.3)?
> > To: "The Beyonder" <beyonder04%yahoo.co.uk@localhost>
> > Cc: "Ian D. Leroux" <idleroux%fastmail.fm@localhost>, 
> > pkgsrc-users%netbsd.org@localhost
> > Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 20:12
> > On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:01:53 +0000
> > (GMT) The Beyonder
> > <beyonder04%yahoo.co.uk@localhost>
> > wrote:
> > > "
> > > With regard to the question:
> > > 
> > > > I don't understand why. You may want to use
> > recent supported
> > > > NetBSD and provide feedback on how it does or
> > doesn't work well
> > > > with your old system.
> > > 
> > > The NetBSD/i386 5.0.2 GENERIC (we believe) kernel
> > seemed to cause
> > > the 486 to halt when booted from floppy disk. In
> > contrast the
> > > NetBSD/i386 1.5.3 GENERIC (again we believe) booted
> > successfully.
> > 
> > So why not NetBSD 4, NetBSD 3, NetBSD 2, or NetBSD 1.6? Why
> > the
> > arbitrary and capricious decision to use 1.5?
> > 
> > Anyway, if you want to use 1.5, go right ahead, but I don't
> > think
> > anyone should be helping you to do that. It is an
> > irrational
> > decision. If, instead, you would like to get help running 5
> > on your
> > system, I think there are multiple people who would
> > assist.
> > 
> > Also what's with the "we" and "believe"? Are you a large
> > group? Do you
> > not *know* if the machine booted successfully or not?
> > 
> > Perry
> > -- 
> > Perry E. Metzger??? ??? perry%piermont.com@localhost
> >
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