Re: Moving pkgsrc-wip away from SourceForge

[Benny Siegert <bsiegert%gmail.com@localhost>]

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Aleksej Saushev <asau%inbox.ru@localhost> wrote:
> First, I find it annoying that some minority of people decide for others
> without giving any chance to speak.

The whole point of this mail was to get a discussion going, a
discussion in which you are taking place. You have been given a chance
to speak, and you have spoken. Is that not enough?

> Only because of that "so let's do this"
> must be rejected. Even if this is a consensus of people in the room,
> it may not be a consensus in the whole community.

Stop talking in hypothetical terms. Are you against this change? Which
part? VCS change or hoster change?


> Second, when moving away from sourceforge was discussed? Has it ever been
> discussed at all?

It has been discussed several times. The most recent one happened over
on tech-repository but the writing has been on the wall for longer.

> Third, how is moving away from sourceforge (to be discussed still) related
> to changing VCS? Moving CVS repository is a matter of copying files,
> moving to another VCS is not.

True. But coalescing both changes would save work and reduce the
number of disruptions.

> Fourth, your "b" is not evident. In fact, this is not even a fact yet.

This was a quote from someone at the table.

> Where and when was it presented in public?

At pkgsrccon 2015.

> How did you determine that
> the number of those contributions is not a noise?

I did not, so far, but one look on the page would tell you that they are not.

> Fifth, I don't see how Joyent is fundamentally different from myself in
> receiving and processing change requests for pkgsrc-wip. I receive them
> by mail and on IRC (sometimes via paste service, sometimes directly),
> Joyent may receive them by any other means.

This is true, but I don't see how that applies to the discussion
above. The thing I was trying to say is:

The github workflow (fork, commit, pull request) is in fact something
that people _are_ using to try to contribute changes to wip. So,
considering that we want these changes and that we want the barrier to
entry to be as low as can be, we should be offering this way of
accepting contributions. Does this make more sense?

--Benny.