I noticed that we have just passed 4 years since the release of NetBSD 8.0, on July 17, 2018: https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-8/NetBSD-8.0.html pkgsrc announcements have cautioned that desktop-type programs are increasingly troubled on NetBSD 8 for a long time. Soon(tm), for some value of soon, the releaes of NetBSD 10 will cause NetBSD 8 to be formally de-supported. I therefore wonder about usage of NetBSD 8 with up-to-date pkgsrc, and would like to hear about: 1) Is anyone using NetBSD 8 as a desktop, running X11 and things like firefox, thunderbird, kde/gnome/lxqt/fce4/etc., gimp, qgis and other large things? If you are, I would like to hear a) Why haven't you updated to NetBSD 9? b) What branch of pkgsrc do you choose to run, and why? What is your experience? c) Do you care what the "8.0" symlink points to, or do you use some value like 8.0_2021Q1 in pkgin? Or do you not use TNF-provided binary packages? (Note that policy says the symlink will be moved forward even if upstream changes cause packages to not build. See https://www.pkgsrc.org/quarterly/.) 1A) Similar, but without things like firefox. I mean more like old-school X11, a few widgets, GTK emacs. 2) Are people using NetBSD 8 in a server environment (no X11, things like apache/nginx, pgsql/mysql, postfix/dovecot, spamassassin, etc.)? a) Are you able to just use the most recent pkgsrc branch without difficulty, or are there missing packages that used to build? In part, my question is "Is any effort warranted to keep big-desktop-type things working on NetBSD 8?" (That is not to suggest that anyone is willing to expend the effort!)
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