Subject: Re: cvs 1.11.10 will be imported
To: None <tls@rek.tjls.com>
From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino <itojun@itojun.org>
List: tech-userlevel
Date: 12/13/2003 16:22:51
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:03:28AM +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote:
> >
> > as far as i see there's no real diff between 1.11.5 and 1.11.10 wrt
> > calls to zlib; i'm interested in seeing that commit message. anyways,
>
> I'll try to dig it up. It may not happen today.
>
> > if there's fix to cvs-to-zlib call in between 1.11.5 to 1.11.10,
> > why do i have to be blamed publically for upgrading thirdparty software?
> > i'm fixing bugs and get blamed. it's not fair.
>
> As far as I can tell, you've spent more messages in this thread complaining
> about being "blamed" -- including one that had LINES OF SHOUTING in it --
> than anyone has actually spend "blaming" you, if indeed any "blame" has
> been assessed at all. Really, nobody is out to get you; but in the real
> world, one must expect to have technical decisions questioned by others, who
> may have different opinions than oneself.
when security issue in thirdparty software comes up, i feel responsible
to react as quickly as i can (otherwise it would be a disservice to
the netbsd user community as a whole, and i'm one of s-o of the
project). i checked the version of CVS in tree, noticed that it is
rather old (1.11.5), and there's no specific description given in
3RDPARTY (nor anywhere else) for keeping old version.
so i upgraded CVS to 1.11.10, which is *minor version upgrade*
rather than major version upgrade (like bumping to 1.12.x).
because it is a minor version upgrade i assumed no problem in upgrade
process, and during the test i've performed before committing i
have experienced no problem at all. i sent a notification to
tech-userlevel before the change just to make sure.
i did not expect to be flamed because of the action i took based on
the logic above. is my logic above damaged somewhere?
> It might help if you provided more than a couple of minutes of notice before
> committing changes like this, or at least explained why you felt that you
> could not do so, if you felt that you could not do so. You have quite a
> history of committing changes on extremely short notice or over the
> objections of others, and many people have asked you to moderate this
> behaviour, so it should not be so surprising to you that others feel that
> you are antagonizing them when you engage in it, even if you have good
> reasons -- particularly if you don't state them.
i'm not sure why the time i spend on netbsd project is not appreciated,
and why i keep getting flamed instead.
maybe because i can work quicker than anyone else.
maybe because i'm in different timezone from other vocal netbsd
developers (in the States).
i will take my doctor's advice and will not commit anything to
netbsd tree until the new year's day - it's a test, if it gives me
better mental health state, netbsd is definitely hurting my health.
itojun