That's the size of it. Linux's dip package looks really neat, especially after I spent 3 months trying to write something similar in Perl using slattach (and re-writing slattach, too). -- VaX#n8 (vak-sa-nate) - n, CS senior++ and Unix junkie - vax@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Deal with evil through strength, yet encourage good through trust. - PGP me