I loudly second this.  I like NetBSD a lot; I run it on a lot of
machines...I'd hate to see this happen.  Can't we just put aside the
egotism and childish behavior in the interest of a better operating
system?  I'm sure you folks do have better things to do with your
time, and more important things to worry about.

  Time to wake up folks.


          -Dave
           mcguire@digex.net

On October 5, you wrote:
> > As I believe this is a bad thing for the NetBSD project as a whole I'd
> > like that this splinter-project did not happen.  Therefore I'd like
> > core to go to extreme lengths to not make this happen.  I'd put this
> > work on a higher priority than 1.1, when it's ready, it's ready.  I
> > also ask Theo to reconsider his last positions in this dispute for
> > our, the users, sake.
> 
> It is a nightmare senario. It would severly damage the whole BSD camp. However
> it is not Theo that is wrong here. Theo is a bright kernel
> consultant and alot of NetBSD is down to Theo. The sparc port has more or
> less stopped making advances that is should have made a long time ago
> because Theo doesn't have commit access. NetBSD is supposed to be about 
> giving Unix to the people, Theo has many fixes, and indeed even complete new
> ports that he has been working on that would benefit the project beyond
> belief. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Another thing that I'd like to bring up, is that the notion of people
> > with CVS access should be seen as spokesmen for the NetBSD project.
> > Good coders are not necessarily good PR-guys.  The only requirements
> > valid on people wanting CVS access should be technical merits IMO.
> 
> Fully agreed upon. 
> 
> > I had to say this, I will be silent for a while now.  If people have
> > opinions we have to find a better forum for this than current-users.
> > Proposals?  The forum must reach core and the users, otherwise it's
> > wasted.  I'm afraid my effort is futile, as there seem to be quite
> > some pride involved in this dispute, but I had to try, at least, as
> > I'm still a believer of democracy and humility.
> 
> There is no argument anymore, all that is left is people who's egos have
> gotten too big.
> 
> > 
> > Well If I hear nothing, I will accept the fact that people want Theo
> > to start a new project.  But do you?
> > 
> If Theo starts a new project, I will have no choice but to atleast try it
> out, if it gives me what I need, and I think it will. Then I'll be
> installing the new version of BSD.
> 
> This is a plea to core: 
> 
>                     SORT THIS OUT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
> 
> Regards,
> Neil.
> 
> -- 
> Neil J. McRae.                                            Demon Internet
> neil@demon.net
>     NetBSD: There is no <a href="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">substitute.</a>