1. User starts 'chfn' 2. vi is started 3. user doesn't know how to use vi 4. user manages to suspend and kill -9 vi 5. /etc/ptmp remains and nobody can edit the database unless root removes /etc/ptmp I see this as a problem. How do you see it? :-) -jm -- ---> http://www.jmp.fi/~jmarin/ <---