For what it is worth, may I remind the people who think that removing a
mailer is a GOOD idea that we seem to be gravitating toward attracting
users?

I can guarantee, taking the newless cluebie stance, that if I were to
receive a system which, FOB, did not contain a mailer, I would erase my
hard drive and go install something else.

I don't think that's what we really want to do.

Regarding syspkgs, I think we really want to be much less granular than,
say, Solaris if we do this, especially if Solaris is as INflexible as has
been claimed (something I tend to assume is true).

[Of course, now that it's me that's said this, I anticipate that precisely
the opposite will happen :)]

				--*greywolf;
--
I'm really a software toolsmith and a musician by trade, but nobody really
needs a software toolsmith much, and the music industry is so cutthroat
that it would probably do me in.  So I do systems administration on the
side as a hobby.  Funny that my hobby finds more work than either of my
professions...