Subject: Re: Somewhat disappointed NetBSD newbie
To: None <current-users@netbsd.org>
From: Zbigniew Baniewski <zb@ispid.com.pl>
List: current-users
Date: 03/27/2005 16:17:03
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 04:44:24PM +0200, Wouter Klouwen wrote:
> I have never had any of these problems. My $TERM is `xterm'.
xterm is for X11 - didn't you notice, that I was asked for console?
> This most likely depends upon badly created applications which assume one
> terminal type.
Possible - but still I'm reporting a problem.
> Wow. You use moused? Have you not heard of X?
Have you heard of people preferring console mode?
> > 7. Using my favourite text editor - joe
>
> Well, there's your problem.
Such answer can be given to ANY user of ANY broken package from NetBSD
packages collection.
Is such attitude normal among NetBSD users?
> No. NetBSD comes standard with sh and csh. More then you'll ever need to get
> pkgsrc and install your shell of choice. tcsh or bash by default would just
> be bloat.
Any more functionality, than obsolete c-shell gives - "would just be bloat"?
> mc is anything but essential. A lot of third party applications are
> available through pkgsrc, and there are prebuilt binairies which may be
> installed from ftp.netbsd.org, or a local mirror.
mc is VERY useful - and I didn't find prebuilt binary of mc. There were
compilation problems.
> > 12. xmradio utility seem to be broken
> Hardly NetBSD's fault.
I don't know, whether it's system fault, or maintainer's fault - just
reporting a problem, which needs to be fixed. Or perhaps it's "my problem"
too?
> Configuration error. I suggest you read the xawtv documentation.
Read it already.
> Fixtv error.
...which need to be fixed by NetBSD-package maintainer. And just because of
this I wrote that.
> Are you serious? pkgsrc may have it's difficulties, but to suggest such a
> replacement?!
Why not replace that (perhaps still not-so-very-bad) system by the better
one - when that better one is available?
> > 16. Does there exist any JRE for NetBSD (as plugin for Firefox) - but not
> > for using in "linux-emulation mode"?
>
> No. Blame Sun.
I'm not looking for anybody to blame - I'm looking for JRE.
> > 17. Perhaps somebody can tell me the way to transfer entire installed NetBSD
> > from one hdd to another (it's installed together with FreeDOS and NetBSD
> > bootmanager)? Or even better: to make copy on the CD - and to install it back
> > from such backup-CD to other hdd?
>
> dd.
dd? From - let's say - 6 GB hdd to 40 GB hdd, with quite different geometry?
Thanks a lot for such "tip".
Perhaps someone a little more experienced?
> This has been a flamish reply to flamish remarks.
You're only 50% right; yes, this was a flamish reply indeed
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pozdrawiam / regards
Zbigniew Baniewski