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Hello,

On Feb 15, 2007, at 01:04, Bucky Katz wrote:

> As I said, when we started out, we tried posting on relevant mailing
> lists, and got zero feedback. When no one listens, you stop talking.

Yeah, nobody seems to read port-arm@netbsd.org, for whatever reason. I 
didn't get any feedback on my Shark stuff either.

>> Please, it would be nice if this silly bickering could stop, and we
>> could simply start communicating effectively.
>
> Please stop sending me emails accusing me of "shouting".  Please stop
> pretending to more knowledge about what's going on wrt to this issue
> than you actually have.  Please stop being defensive.  All of those
> would be good steps towards more effective communication.

Would you please both get a grip? Fingerpointing and tossing 
accusations at each other isn't exactly 'effective communication'.

> I have no way to "solve" this problem. The NetBSD foundatation,
> without consultation with the development community, has arbitrarily
> removed functionality from the kernel. As far as I can see you've got
> no intention of reversing that decision or even defering it and asking
> for that input.

It got removed from -current, AFTER 4.0 was branched so the first 
release with the new threading code will be 5.0 which will probably 
happen in 2008 or later. Unless you're using -current in whatever 
product you're working on you have plenty of time to adjust and 
whatever fixes you come up with will be useful for the 4.0 branch.
I would understand such an outcry if a change like that had happened on 
a release branch but - well - it didn't.

have fun
Michael
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