Subject: Re: On the topline menu
To: Michael Finch <finchm@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu>
From: None <jeffl@melb.arc.cpr.itg.telecom.com.au>
List: macbsd-general
Date: 06/20/1994 16:04:01
Mike Finch writes:
> > WHY SHOULD THE KERNEL PROVIDE ANY SORT OF USER-INTERFACE MANAGEMENT?
> >
> > This is NOT MacOS. IF you want menus, they should be done in
> EXACTLY! MacOS is simply the best way to boot MacBSD, that's it.
>
> [hopefully lots of sarcasm deleted here]
>
> > But DON'T put put menus in the kernel...
> Amen!
>
> P.S. There are many implied ";-)"s in this note, please try to find
> them all.
Well, sarcasm always passes me by so I will pretend there was none or if it
was there, it was too subtle for me.
JEEZ, GUYS. WHY MUST CONSOLE EMULATION IN UNIX ALWAYS LOOK LIKE A
PIECE OF SHIT?
Sure, when you get X up and running, you can plug in whatever user
interface you like. So what? I want a console interface without
having the expense of X (both memory and diskspace).
On the Mac, the console interface is here now. X is still some way
off. Why shouldn't the console interface be made nicer for those of us
who will, quite frankly, be happy with the current multi-console
interface and don't necessarily have the disk/memory/cpu-power/desire
to run X.
Quite frankly, the input from the PC camp (where the console driver is
probably just using some 80x24 text-only mode) is not, imho, relevant.
The Mac comes with bitmapped display and nothing else - since it all
has to be bitmapped anyway, I say add nicer features to it. The only
excuse I think is acceptable is memory-profile - don't waste my
precious RAM sticking EMACS (for example) into the kernel.
If people really complain, please make it a linkable module so I can
have a real console while others have their crappy little vt-emulator.
Death to the vt100!
Jeff <jeffl@melb.cpr.itg.telecom.com.au>
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