Subject: Re: On the topline menu
To: Michael Finch <finchm@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu>
From: None <jeffl@melb.arc.cpr.itg.telecom.com.au>
List: macbsd-general
Date: 06/20/1994 16:04:01
Mike Finch writes:
> > WHY SHOULD THE KERNEL PROVIDE ANY SORT OF USER-INTERFACE MANAGEMENT?
> > 
> > This is NOT MacOS.  IF you want menus, they should be done in
> EXACTLY!  MacOS is simply the best way to boot MacBSD, that's it.
> 
>		[hopefully lots of sarcasm deleted here]
>
> > But DON'T put put menus in the kernel...
> Amen!
> 
> P.S.  There are many implied ";-)"s in this note, please try to find
> them all.

Well, sarcasm always passes me by so I will pretend there was none or if it
was there, it was too subtle for me.

JEEZ, GUYS.  WHY MUST CONSOLE EMULATION IN UNIX ALWAYS LOOK LIKE A 
PIECE OF SHIT?  

Sure, when you get X up and running, you can plug in whatever user 
interface you like.  So what?  I want a console interface without 
having the expense of X (both memory and diskspace).  

On the Mac, the console interface is here now.  X is still some way 
off.  Why shouldn't the console interface be made nicer for those of us 
who will, quite frankly, be happy with the current multi-console 
interface and don't necessarily have the disk/memory/cpu-power/desire 
to run X.  

Quite frankly, the input from the PC camp (where the console driver is 
probably just using some 80x24 text-only mode) is not, imho, relevant.  
The Mac comes with bitmapped display and nothing else - since it all 
has to be bitmapped anyway, I say add nicer features to it.  The only 
excuse I think is acceptable is memory-profile - don't waste my 
precious RAM sticking EMACS (for example) into the kernel.

If people really complain, please make it a linkable module so I can 
have a real console while others have their crappy little vt-emulator.

Death to the vt100!

Jeff <jeffl@melb.cpr.itg.telecom.com.au>
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