Subject: Re: cooperation?
To: Florian La Roche <rzsfl@rz.uni-sb.de>
From: Robert Shady <rls@zeus.id.net>
List: netbsd-bugs
Date: 03/13/1994 17:11:38
I am overstepping my boundaries on the following letter by far, please
ignore totally.  I have redirected my flames to /dev/null.
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> Some weeks ago, I have downloaded the NetBSD-current release and ported
> all net programs to Linux. These new versions are much better than the
> up to now used versions, which often disabled many things, since the
> networking layer in the kernel wasn't too good.
> The kernel net and terminal layer are now good enough to use all
> possible features.

Great!  I am glad that you got something useful from them.

> I have also found some bugs in the NetBSD release, which I want to report.

Hmm... Interesting, but go ahead anyways...

> The comment from the automated subscribing-mail was a little bit irritating
> for me. So here we go:
> 
> - Who can I send bug reports for the net programs?

If your not running NetBSD, I don't know how useful your reports will be, 
and may even get to be a little irritating themselves.  You can report
bugs via the 'sendpr' program in the NetBSD distribution.  It uses the
GNU Gnats problem tracker to submit a report.

> - Is there a mailing list for net programs, I could join?

Not just for the programs, but you may join any of the *BSD mailing lists,
I am sure...

> - How could be improve the cooperation of NetBSD and Linux people?

Never happen... 

> - If there is currently no separate mailing list for net programs, but
>   only more general NetBSD mailing lists, what can we do?
>         - Make a new mailing list for NetBSD *and* Linux people for
>           bugs related to the net programs.

Nope, Not likely either...

>         - Let the Linux people join a more NetBSD-related mailing list,
>           so they have to ignore all things not related to Linux.

They can do this...

>           (Maybe you get bothered by a crowd of Linuxers, who knows...)

Yeah, I think so.

> - How do the people from NetBSD cooperate with the FreeBSD people?

Not as well as *I* would have liked, but things 'chunk' along.

>   Do bug fixes go also to the other distribution?

Sometimes, depends on whether the 'other' distribution actually thinks its
a bug, etc..

> - Do the FreeBSD people have totally different net versions?

Yes, and No.  For the most part, the net code operates similarly.

> - Where can I find a copy of FreeBSD ?

FreeBSD can be had from freebsd.cdrom.com (I believe it's still here).

> I know, that the BSD and the Linux people like to fight against each other.

Moi?  Nah...  Your imagination!

> However, when I have looked at all bug fixes which were done for Linux, I
> saw, that they were also done for NetBSD. I cannot say, who copied from who
> and who actually did the bug fixes, but that isn't that important.

I may be wrong, but I sincereley doubt that *BSD get's their bug fixes from
Linuxers...

> I just think, that cooperation would make things better for both sides.
> Why not improve all things even faster?

Cooperation sucks.

> Any comments (and not flames) are greatly appreciated,

These are just comments, they are my own and are not neccesarily the views of
ANY person, living or dead.


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