(Just to reiterate, more for my benefit than anything else :)

	   You've config'ed a kernel without wdc or wd*, and with
	   'config           netbsd  root on sd0 swap on sd0', and
	   tried 'disklabel -B' on the scsi disk under 1.2 as well?

	   Hmm, if it cant find the swap maybe somethings up with the
	   disklabel & 1.2 is more picky - can you post a copy of
	   your scsi disk label? (Does this happen on both scsi drives?)

I installed 1.2 from the FTPed files onto a freshly formatted wd0,  and used
it for the following steps.

I copied using dump 0f - | ( cd /foo ; restore xf - ) the filesystems
from wd0 to sd0.

I put the 1.2 boot blocks onto sd0 using disklabel -B

I built a kernel configed with root and swap on sd0 and installed it
in the root of sd0.  The first time I tried this wdc and wd* were
included.  The next time they were not included.  It made no difference.

I shut the system down,  physically removed wd0 and tried to reboot from sd0.
I tried this on two machines and got the same result on both.

The hardware in question (except for the disk drives) was running NetBSD1.1
(with both a 1.1 and a 1.2beta kernel) with root and swap on sd0,  a
different drive which,  thank the Lord,  I did not overwrite.  It is still
running 1.1 with a 1.2beta kernel.

This is all the information I can give you.  I can no longer repeat the
experiment because I have had to return the sd0 on which I installed 1.2
to its previous use.

Can anyone report that they FTP-ed the binaries from NetBSD.org,  installed
them on a machine running from sd0,  and had it work OK?

	David.