Subject: Re: bin/30040: some MTA stuff
To: None <gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org>
From: Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de>
List: netbsd-bugs
Date: 04/23/2005 17:12:01
The following reply was made to PR bin/30040; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: bin/30040: some MTA stuff
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:11:02 +0200

 On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 06:38:26PM +0200, Manuel Bouyer wrote:
 > On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 03:32:01PM +0000, Sascha Retzki wrote:
 > >  > >Fix:
 > >  > 
 > >  I forgot the fix:
 > >  - Don't distribute two MTAs
 > 
 > Why ? This way the user has the ability to chose which one to use.
 
 pkgsrc. Or system packages, which we discussed already some times ago, which
 I don't want to bring here.
 
 > Although which MTA to ship, and which one to use by default is
 > controversial, I don't see any fundamental problems with having several
 > MTAs shipped with the system.
 > 
 
 $ dict bloat 
 
 > >  - Don't use idiotic, wrong or insecure default configurations
 > 
 > How is the default sendmail idiotic, wrong or insecure ? The default
 
 Insecure: Both can't be shiped with cryptographic support.
 Wrong/Idiotic: virecover, whatever it is really about, is enabled by default, 
 the user has no chance to disable it or configure sendmail correctly. Ctrl+C 
 it, then find out that it is called virecover (yay intuitive..) and then 
 explicitly set it to =no. What a mess. I certainly think this unix is about:
 "Perfect is attained not if there is nothing more to add, but if there is 
 nothing more to remove".