Re: install/51214: Sysinst should add dhcpcd to rc.conf with -b flag.

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From: coypu%SDF.ORG@localhost
To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost
Cc: install-manager%netbsd.org@localhost, gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost, netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Subject: Re: install/51214: Sysinst should add dhcpcd to rc.conf with -b flag.
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:30:55 +0000

 On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 04:45:01AM +0000, Robert Elz wrote:
 >    |  Don't we have a notion of mountcritical which could work for NFS case?
 >  
 >  Those (mountcritlocal and mountcritremote) make sure that the mounts happen
 >  before they are required to be used elsewhere, they have nothing to do with
 >  delaying mount attempts until the network is ready.
 >  
 
 I see, this situation is very tricky :-(
 
 >    |  I'm unsure what is the reason for ntp/ntpdate to be so critical.
 >  
 >  Lots of things fail to work correctly if the time is not monotonically
 >  increasing.   Unlike ntpd, ntpdate will step the clock, forward or backward,
 >  as needed (which is exactly what it should do, when run before anything else
 >  is started, or as little else as possible.)
 >  
 
 I didn't know about that, sorry.
 
 >  NetBSD already boots to a runnable state much quicker than most
 >  other systems, and in general there are reasons for the sequence.
 
 I do not have concrete numbers (and even if I did, we could argue about
 their validity), but I feel like machines can and do complete a full
 boot in the time it takes me to load nouveau or wait on ntpdate.
 
 >    |  (while here, a third candidate is powerd).
 >  
 >  That ons potentially could start slower (I think) but does its startup time
 >  really matter?  I cannot recall ever noticing any kind of delay from
 >  powerd starting up (there's probably more time spent writing to the console
 >  that it is starting, than actually starting it...)
 >  
 
 I managed to find one example that's probably valid!! ;-)