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Re: port-macppc/59014: Shutdown -r now often freezes on macppc b&w G3
The following reply was made to PR port-macppc/59014; it has been noted by GNATS.
From: Chris Tucker <capa150%gmail.com@localhost>
To: Taylor R Campbell <riastradh%netbsd.org@localhost>, gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Cc:
Subject: Re: port-macppc/59014: Shutdown -r now often freezes on macppc b&w G3
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 11:25:31 -0800
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 11:55=E2=80=AFPM Taylor R Campbell <riastradh@netbs=
d.org>
wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 12:22:26 -0800
> > From: Chris Tucker <capa150%gmail.com@localhost>
> >
> > I was able to type at the console and see characters but there was no
> > response otherwise.
>
> Huh, so the console is responsive and echoing input, which suggests
> it's still in userland. Can you type ^T when this happens? What does
> it say when you do that?
>
netbsd# rndctl -S seed2 (works)
netbsd# rndctl -S seed2 (works)
netbsd# rndctl -S seed2 (works)
netbsd# rndctl -S seed2 (freezes, and I press ctrl-t)
[ 139.8510292] load: 0.42 cmd: rndctl 633 [biowait] 0.01u 0.00s 0% 1424k
> Can you run rndctl in the background, and either start up crash(8)
> (userland version of ddb that can examine a live kernel, doesn't crash
> your system) or enter ddb with `sysctl -w debug.crashme_enable=3D1' and
> `sysctl -w debug.crashme.ddb=3D1'?
>
> If so, at the crash or ddb prompt, can you get the output of these
> commands?
>
> ps
> ps/w
> show all tstiles
> bt/t 0t$PID where $PID is the pid in decimal of rndctl
>
NOTE: photographs of my display to verify my typing:
https://i.ibb.co/7vnbHvL/pr59014.jpg
netbsd# rndctl -S seed2 & (couldn't' tell you if this command froze or not)
netbsd# sysctl -w debug.crashme_enable=3D1
debug.crashme_enable: 0 -> 1
netbsd# sysctl -w debug.crashme.ddb=3D1
[ 206.2935173] crashme_sysctl_forwarder:201: invoking "ddb" (enter ddb
directly)
Stopped in pid 3603.3603 (sysctl) at netbsd: crashme_ddb+0x10: lwz
r0, 0x14(r1)
db> ps
PID LID S CPU FLAGS STRUCT LWP * NAME WAIT
3603 > 3603 7 0 0 ef43940 sysctl
3288 3288 3 0 0 e2d5680 rndctl biowait
3018 3018 3 0 180 f1fbd00 sh wait
4027 4027 3 0 180 e2d5080 sh wait
3170 3170 3 0 180 ef43c40 sshd poll
3936 3936 3 0 180 fb3a380 sshd poll
2207 2207 3 0 180 fb3a080 sh ttyraw
1486 1486 3 0 180 f1fb400 getty ttyraw
2100 2100 3 0 180 f10940 getty ttyraw
1730 1730 3 0 180 f10c40 getty ttyraw
1323 1323 3 0 180 ffa700 getty ttyraw
2465 2465 3 0 180 f1fb100 login wait
1590 1590 3 0 180 ef43040 cron nanoslp
1366 1366 3 0 180 ef43640 inetd kqueue
1609 1609 3 0 180 fafb700 qmgr kqueue
2077 2077 3 0 180 fb3a980 pickup kqueue
2211 2211 3 0 180 e2d5380 master kqueue
848 848 3 0 180 f1fba00 sshd poll
440 440 3 0 180 fb3a680 powerd kqueue
429 429 3 0 0 fd79cc0 makemandb biowait
1116 1116 3 0 180 fd799c0 syslogd kqueue
570 570 3 0 180 fd796c0 dhcpcd poll
560 560 3 0 180 fd793c0 dhcpcd poll
572 572 3 0 180 fb3ac80 dhcpcd poll
501 501 3 0 180 fd790c0 dhcpcd poll
1 1 3 0 180 f74700 init wait
0 177 3 0 200 f9b080 physiod physiod
0 120 3 0 200 f10640 pooldrain pooldrain
0 119 3 0 200 f10340 ioflush syncer
0 118 3 0 200 f10040 pgdaemon pgdaemon
0 115 3 0 200 ffad00 swwreboot swwreboot
0 114 3 0 200 f74d00 atapibus0 sccomp
0 111 3 0 200 f9b380 npfgc0 npfgcw
0 110 3 0 200 f74a00 usb0 usbevt
0 109 3 0 200 f74400 rt_free rt_free
0 108 3 0 200 f74100 unpgc unpgc
0 107 3 0 200 f94cc0 key_timehandler key_timehandler
0 106 3 0 200 f949c0 icmp6_wqinput/0 icmp6_wqinput
0 105 3 0 200 f946c0 nd6_timer nd6_timer
0 104 3 0 200 f943c0 carp6_wqinput/0 carp6_wqinput
0 103 3 0 200 f9bc80 carp_wqinput/0 carp_wqinput
0 102 3 0 200 f9b980 icmp_wqinput/0 icmp_wqinput
0 101 3 0 200 f9b680 rt_timer rt_timer
0 100 3 0 200 f940c0 vmem_rehash vmem_rehash
0 26 3 0 200 fdcc40 entbutler entropy
0 25 3 0 200 fdc940 usbtask-dr usbtsk
0 24 3 0 200 fdc640 usbtask-hc usbtsk
0 23 3 0 200 fdc340 atabus1 atath
0 22 3 0 200 fdc040 awacs awacs_wait
0 20 3 0 200 ffaa00 scsibus1 sccomp
0 18 3 0 200 ffa400 scsibus0 sccomp
0 17 3 0 240 ffa100 atabus0 atath
0 16 3 0 200 b1cc0 sysmon smtaskq
0 15 3 0 200 b19c0 pmfsuspend pmfsuspend
0 14 3 0 200 b16c0 pmfevent pmfevent
0 13 3 0 200 b13c0 sopendfree sopendfr
0 12 3 0 200 b10c0 ifwdog ifwdog
0 11 3 0 200 ffc80 iflnkst iflnkst
0 10 3 0 200 ff980 nfssilly nfssilly
0 9 3 0 200 ff680 vdrain vdrain
0 8 3 0 200 ff380 modunload mod_unld
0 7 3 0 200 ff080 xcall/0 xcall
0 6 1 0 200 d69c40 softser/0
0 5 1 0 40200 d69940 softclk/0
0 4 1 0 200 d69640 softbio/0
0 3 1 0 40200 d69340 softnet/0
0 2 1 0 201 d69040 idle/0
0 0 3 0 200 c3df80 swapper uvm
db> ps/w
PID LID COMMAND EMUL PRI WAIT-MSG WAIT-CHANNEL
3603 > 3603 sysctl netbsd 43 0
3288 3288 rndctl netbsd 43 biowait c88a694
3018 3018 sh netbsd 43 wait f3f9044
4027 4207 sh netbsd 41 wait e2d704c
3170 3170 sshd netbsd 43 poll dd7400
3936 3936 sshd netbsd 37 poll dd7400
2207 2207 sh netbsd 42 ttyraw f3c428
1486 1486 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw fec028
2100 2100 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw fae828
1730 1730 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw faea28
1323 1323 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw faec28
2465 2465 login netbsd 42 wait f68f53c
1590 1590 cron netbsd 43 nanoslp ef43040
1366 1366 inetd netbsd 39 kqueue d056d80
1609 1609 qmgr netbsd 41 kqueue f5e7740
2077 2077 pickup netbsd 43 kqueue f5e7f40
2211 2211 master netbsd 43 kqueue e642700
848 848 sshd netbsd 43 poll dd7400
440 440 powerd netbsd 42 kqueue fdf0980
429 429 makemandb netbsd 26 biowait ae5f744
1116 1116 syslogd netbsd 43 kqueue f8bfe80
570 570 dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400
560 560 dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400
572 572 dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400
501 501 dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400
1 1 init netbsd 43 wait f6e02c
0 177 system netbsd 123 physiod f8bf2f4
0 120 system netbsd 125 pooldrain c6e1fc
0 119 system netbsd 124 syncer f10340
0 118 system netbsd 126 pgdaemon c6d570
0 115 system netbsd 43 swwreboot f51df4
0 114 system netbsd 96 sccomp ff099c
0 111 system netbsd 96 npfgcw fc9bcc
0 110 system netbsd 96 usbevt fc7244
0 109 system netbsd 222 rt_free fc1bf4
0 108 system netbsd 96 unpgc c763a0
0 107 system netbsd 222 key_timehandler fc1af4
0 106 system netbsd 222 icmp6_wqinput fc1a74
0 105 system netbsd 222 nd6_timer fc19f4
0 104 system netbsd 222 carp6_wqinput fc18f4
0 103 system netbsd 222 carp_wqinput fc1874
0 102 system netbsd 222 icmp_wqinput fc17f4
0 101 system netbsd 222 rt_timer fc1774
0 100 system netbsd 125 vmem_rehash fc13f4
0 26 system netbsd 43 entropy c3d678
0 25 system netbsd 96 usbtsk c5b858
0 24 system netbsd 96 usbtsk c5b830
0 23 system netbsd 96 atath ff09bc
0 22 system netbsd 96 awacs_wait fef454
0 20 system netbsd 96 sccomp ff00a0
0 18 system netbsd 96 sccomp ad4a0
0 17 system netbsd 96 atath d010021c
0 16 system netbsd 96 smtaskq c5c434
0 15 system netbsd 43 pmfsuspend b2274
0 14 system netbsd 43 pmfevent b21f4
0 13 system netbsd 96 sopendfr c7635c
0 12 system netbsd 222 ifwdog b20f4
0 11 system netbsd 222 iflnkst b2074
0 10 system netbsd 43 nfssilly dcef34
0 9 system netbsd 125 vdrain c76eec
0 8 system netbsd 125 mod_unld c6f2fc
0 7 system netbsd 127 xcall c027c8
0 6 system netbsd 223 0
0 5 system netbsd 220 0
0 4 system netbsd 221 0
0 3 system netbsd 222 0
0 2 system netbsd 0 0
0 0 system netbsd 125 uvm c3df80
db> show all tstiles
PID LID COMMAND WAITING-FOR WAIT-CHANNEL (nothing eles outputted)
db> bt/t 0t$3288
trace: pid 0 lid 177 at 0xe37de0
0x00e37e40: at cpu_switchto+0x28
0x00e37e50: at mi_switch+0x140
0x00e37e90: at sleepq_block+0xe0
0x00e37eb0: at cv_wait+0xc0
0x00e37ee0: at workqueue_worker+0x12c
0x00e37f20: at cpu_lwp_bootstrap+0xc
0x00e37fe8: at 0xfffffffc
db>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 20,=
2025 at 11:55=E2=80=AFPM Taylor R Campbell <<a href=3D"mailto:riastradh=
@netbsd.org">riastradh%netbsd.org@localhost</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 12:22:26 -0800<br>
> From: Chris Tucker <<a href=3D"mailto:capa150%gmail.com@localhost" target=3D"=
_blank">capa150%gmail.com@localhost</a>><br>
> <br>
> I was able to type at the console and see characters but there was no<=
br>
> response otherwise.<br>
<br>
Huh, so the console is responsive and echoing input, which suggests<br>
it's still in userland.=C2=A0 Can you type ^T when this happens?=C2=A0 =
What does<br>
it say when you do that?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>netbsd# rndctl=
-S seed2 =C2=A0 (works)</div><div><div>netbsd# rndctl -S seed2<span class=
=3D"gmail-Apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span>=C2=A0 (works)</div></div><di=
v><div>netbsd# rndctl -S seed2<span class=3D"gmail-Apple-converted-space">=
=C2=A0</span>=C2=A0 (works)</div></div><div><div>netbsd# rndctl -S seed2<sp=
an class=3D"gmail-Apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span>=C2=A0 (freezes, and =
I press ctrl-t)</div>[ 139.8510292] load: 0.42 =C2=A0cmd: rndctl 633 [biowa=
it] 0.01u 0.00s 0% 1424k</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-sty=
le:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Can you run rndctl in the background, and either start up crash(8)<br>
(userland version of ddb that can examine a live kernel, doesn't crash<=
br>
your system) or enter ddb with `sysctl -w debug.crashme_enable=3D1' and=
<br>
`sysctl -w debug.crashme.ddb=3D1'?<br>
<br>
If so, at the crash or ddb prompt, can you get the output of these<br>
commands?<br>
<br>
ps<br>
ps/w<br>
show all tstiles<br>
bt/t 0t$PID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 where $PID is the pid in deci=
mal of rndctl<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>NOTE: photographs of my d=
isplay to verify my typing:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://i.ibb.co/7vnbHvL/pr5901=
4.jpg">https://i.ibb.co/7vnbHvL/pr59014.jpg</a></div><div><br></div>netbsd#=
rndctl -S seed2 & (couldn't' tell you if this command froze or=
not)<br>netbsd# sysctl -w debug.crashme_enable=3D1<br>debug.crashme_enable=
: 0 -> 1<br>netbsd# sysctl -w debug.crashme.ddb=3D1<br>[ 206.2935173] cr=
ashme_sysctl_forwarder:201: invoking "ddb" (enter ddb directly)<b=
r>Stopped in pid 3603.3603 (sysctl) at netbsd: crashme_ddb+0x10: lwz<br>r0,=
0x14(r1)<br>db> ps<br>PID LID S CPU FLAGS STRUCT LWP * NAME WAIT<br>3=
603 > 3603 7 0 0 ef43940 sysctl<br>3288 3288 3 0 0 e2d5680 rndctl =
biowait<br>3018 3018 3 0 180 f1fbd00 sh wait<br>4027 4027 3 0 180 e2d5=
080 sh wait<br>3170 3170 3 0 180 ef43c40 sshd poll<br>3936 3936 3 0 1=
80 fb3a380 sshd poll<br>2207 2207 3 0 180 fb3a080 sh ttyraw<br>1486 =
1486 3 0 180 f1fb400 getty ttyraw<br>2100 2100 3 0 180 f10940 getty t=
tyraw<br>1730 1730 3 0 180 f10c40 getty ttyraw<br>1323 1323 3 0 180 ffa=
700 getty ttyraw<br>2465 2465 3 0 180 f1fb100 login wait<br>1590 1590 =
3 0 180 ef43040 cron nanoslp<br>1366 1366 3 0 180 ef43640 inetd kqueu=
e<br>1609 1609 3 0 180 fafb700 qmgr kqueue<br>2077 2077 3 0 180 fb3a980=
pickup kqueue<br>2211 2211 3 0 180 e2d5380 master kqueue<br>848 848 =
3 0 180 f1fba00 sshd poll<br>440 440 3 0 180 fb3a680 powerd kqueue=
<br>429 429 3 0 0 fd79cc0 makemandb biowait<br>1116 1116 3 0 180 fd79=
9c0 syslogd kqueue<br>570 570 3 0 180 fd796c0 dhcpcd poll<br>560 56=
0 3 0 180 fd793c0 dhcpcd poll<br>572 572 3 0 180 fb3ac80 dhcpcd po=
ll<br>501 501 3 0 180 fd790c0 dhcpcd poll<br>1 1 3 0 180 f74700 i=
nit wait<br>0 177 3 0 200 f9b080 physiod physiod<br>0 120 3 0 200 f=
10640 pooldrain pooldrain<br>0 119 3 0 200 f10340 ioflush syncer<br>=
0 118 3 0 200 f10040 pgdaemon pgdaemon<br>0 115 3 0 200 ffad00 sw=
wreboot swwreboot<br>0 114 3 0 200 f74d00 atapibus0 sccomp<br>0 111 =
3 0 200 f9b380 npfgc0 npfgcw<br>0 110 3 0 200 f74a00 usb0 usbevt<b=
r>0 109 3 0 200 f74400 rt_free rt_free<br>0 108 3 0 200 f74100 un=
pgc unpgc<br>0 107 3 0 200 f94cc0 key_timehandler key_timehandler<br>0=
106 3 0 200 f949c0 icmp6_wqinput/0 icmp6_wqinput<br>0 105 3 0 200 =
f946c0 nd6_timer nd6_timer<br>0 104 3 0 200 f943c0 carp6_wqinput/0 c=
arp6_wqinput<br>0 103 3 0 200 f9bc80 carp_wqinput/0 carp_wqinput<br>0 =
102 3 0 200 f9b980 icmp_wqinput/0 icmp_wqinput<br>0 101 3 0 200 f9b=
680 rt_timer rt_timer<br>0 100 3 0 200 f940c0 vmem_rehash vmem_reh=
ash<br>0 26 3 0 200 fdcc40 entbutler entropy<br>0 25 3 0 200 fdc94=
0 usbtask-dr usbtsk<br>0 24 3 0 200 fdc640 usbtask-hc usbtsk<br>0 =
23 3 0 200 fdc340 atabus1 atath<br>0 22 3 0 200 fdc040 awacs =
awacs_wait<br>0 20 3 0 200 ffaa00 scsibus1 sccomp<br>0 18 3 0 200 =
ffa400 scsibus0 sccomp<br>0 17 3 0 240 ffa100 atabus0 atath<br>0 =
16 3 0 200 b1cc0 sysmon smtaskq<br>0 15 3 0 200 b19c0 pmfsuspen=
d pmfsuspend<br>0 14 3 0 200 b16c0 pmfevent pmfevent<br>0 13 3 0 2=
00 b13c0 sopendfree sopendfr<br>0 12 3 0 200 b10c0 ifwdog ifwdog=
<br>0 11 3 0 200 ffc80 iflnkst iflnkst<br>0 10 3 0 200 ff980 nf=
ssilly nfssilly<br>0 9 3 0 200 ff680 vdrain vdrain<br>0 8 3 0 200=
ff380 modunload mod_unld<br>0 7 3 0 200 ff080 xcall/0 xcall<br>=
0 6 1 0 200 d69c40 softser/0<br>0 5 1 0 40200 d69940 softclk/0<br>=
0 4 1 0 200 d69640 softbio/0<br>0 3 1 0 40200 d69340 softnet/0<br>=
0 2 1 0 201 d69040 idle/0<br>0 0 3 0 200 c3df80 swapper uvm<br>=
db> ps/w<br>PID LID COMMAND EMUL PRI WAIT-MSG WAIT-CHANNEL<br>3603 =
> 3603 sysctl netbsd 43 0<br>3288 3288 rndctl netbsd 43 biowait =
c88a694<br>3018 3018 sh netbsd 43 wait f3f9044<br>4027 4207 sh net=
bsd 41 wait e2d704c<br>3170 3170 sshd netbsd 43 poll dd7400<br>3936 =
3936 sshd netbsd 37 poll dd7400<br>2207 2207 sh netbsd 42 ttyraw f=
3c428<br>1486 1486 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw fec028<br>2100 2100 getty ne=
tbsd 41 ttyraw fae828<br>1730 1730 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw faea28<br>=
1323 1323 getty netbsd 41 ttyraw faec28<br>2465 2465 login netbsd 42 =
wait f68f53c<br>1590 1590 cron netbsd 43 nanoslp ef43040<br>1366 1366=
inetd netbsd 39 kqueue d056d80<br>1609 1609 qmgr netbsd 41 kqueue =
f5e7740<br>2077 2077 pickup netbsd 43 kqueue f5e7f40<br>2211 2211 maste=
r netbsd 43 kqueue e642700<br>848 848 sshd netbsd 43 poll dd7400<=
br>440 440 powerd netbsd 42 kqueue fdf0980<br>429 429 makemandb net=
bsd 26 biowait ae5f744<br>1116 1116 syslogd netbsd 43 kqueue f8bfe80=
<br>570 570 dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400<br>560 560 dhcpcd netbsd =
43 poll dd7400<br>572 572 dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400<br>501 501=
dhcpcd netbsd 43 poll dd7400<br>1 1 init netbsd 43 wait f6e02c<=
br>0 177 system netbsd 123 physiod f8bf2f4<br>0 120 system netbsd =
125 pooldrain c6e1fc<br>0 119 system netbsd 124 syncer f10340<br>0 =
118 system netbsd 126 pgdaemon c6d570<br>0 115 system netbsd 43 sw=
wreboot f51df4<br>0 114 system netbsd 96 sccomp ff099c<br>0 111 sy=
stem netbsd 96 npfgcw fc9bcc<br>0 110 system netbsd 96 usbevt fc7=
244<br>0 109 system netbsd 222 rt_free fc1bf4<br>0 108 system netb=
sd 96 unpgc c763a0<br>0 107 system netbsd 222 key_timehandler fc1af4=
<br>0 106 system netbsd 222 icmp6_wqinput fc1a74<br>0 105 system net=
bsd 222 nd6_timer fc19f4<br>0 104 system netbsd 222 carp6_wqinput fc1=
8f4<br>0 103 system netbsd 222 carp_wqinput fc1874<br>0 102 system n=
etbsd 222 icmp_wqinput fc17f4<br>0 101 system netbsd 222 rt_timer fc1=
774<br>0 100 system netbsd 125 vmem_rehash fc13f4<br>0 26 system ne=
tbsd 43 entropy c3d678<br>0 25 system netbsd 96 usbtsk c5b858<br>0=
24 system netbsd 96 usbtsk c5b830<br>0 23 system netbsd 96 atath=
ff09bc<br>0 22 system netbsd 96 awacs_wait fef454<br>0 20 system =
netbsd 96 sccomp ff00a0<br>0 18 system netbsd 96 sccomp ad4a0<br>=
0 17 system netbsd 96 atath d010021c<br>0 16 system netbsd 96 smt=
askq c5c434<br>0 15 system netbsd 43 pmfsuspend b2274<br>0 14 syst=
em netbsd 43 pmfevent b21f4<br>0 13 system netbsd 96 sopendfr c7635=
c<br>0 12 system netbsd 222 ifwdog b20f4<br>0 11 system netbsd 22=
2 iflnkst b2074<br>0 10 system netbsd 43 nfssilly dcef34<br>0 9 sy=
stem netbsd 125 vdrain c76eec<br>0 8 system netbsd 125 mod_unld c6=
f2fc<br>0 7 system netbsd 127 xcall c027c8<br>0 6 system netbsd 2=
23 0<br>0 5 system netbsd 220 0<br>0 4 system netbsd 221 =
0<br>0 3 system netbsd 222 0<br>0 2 system netbsd 0 0<br>=
0 0 system netbsd 125 uvm c3df80<br>db> show all tstiles<br> PID =
LID COMMAND WAITING-FOR WAIT-CHANNEL =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (nothing eles outputted)=
<br>db> bt/t 0t$3288<br>trace: pid 0 lid 177 at 0xe37de0<br>0x00e37e40: =
at cpu_switchto+0x28<br>0x00e37e50: at mi_switch+0x140<br>0x00e37e90: at sl=
eepq_block+0xe0<br>0x00e37eb0: at cv_wait+0xc0<br>0x00e37ee0: at workqueue_=
worker+0x12c<br>0x00e37f20: at cpu_lwp_bootstrap+0xc<br>0x00e37fe8: at 0xff=
fffffc<br><div>db>=C2=A0</div></div></div>
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