Is the "nobody" account supposed to be in "nogroup" or not? As is it isn't: owl% grep nobody /etc/passwd nobody:*:32767:9999:Unprivileged user:/nonexistent:/dev/null owl% grep nogroup /etc/group nogroup:*:32766: owl% grep 9999 /etc/group [nothing] ~Ken P.S. I don't subscribe to "netbsd-help" so you must mail me directly.