Should i take it from the appearance of <<URL:<underline>ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.4.1/</underline>> that there's soon to be a 1.4.1? I'll hold off compiling a custom 1.4 looking for this freezup bug, if so... -- <<URL:http://www.glinx.com/~hclsmith/>