i foudn the problem.  this issue had nothing to do with verizon, in fact.  the 
problem was that i had a few leftover ipf rules from my previous that were 
blocking on external ethernet interface and not operating on the pppoe0 
interface. 

::smack head with own stupidity::

thanks to those for the help.  

--joe

On Saturday 24 May 2003 09:53 am, Greg Troxel wrote:
> No real clues, but I have heard others say they are using Verizon DSL
> service with NetBSD.  A friend of mine has this (with Mac OSX) and had
> no trouble (he is not a networking/OS expert).
>
> You could try tcpdumping the connection the windoze box makes and see
> what it is doing.....
>
>    a good connection.
>
> What does this mean?  Your trouble report is far too vague.  I would
> recommend running tcpdump and posting all the output from your
> attempts, with username/passwd replaced with dummy strings.  Then
> perhaps someone on the lis can offer help.
>
> If you figure it out please post as well, or submit a VZ-specific note
> to the docs.
>
>         Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com>