On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:21 PM, James K. Lowden wrote:

> Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>
>>
>> "James K. Lowden" <jklowden@schemamania.org> writes:
>>
>>> One difference between newbies and gurus: gurus distrust magic.
>>> Filesystems aren't *meant* to grow and shrink, and programs that  
>>> grow
>>> and shrink them almost certainly -- not that I understand them in  
>>> any
>>> detail -- take some shortcuts with your data.
>>>
>>
>> Jim, this is nonsense. I'm sorry to say that, but you're steering
>> someone wrong.
>>
>
> I'm happy to be corrected.
>
>
>> If it is done right and it is logging what it does, it can  
>> restart. If
>> it is done wrong, well, then you need to back up your data before
>> resizing, but sometimes that's still a big win.
>>
>
> The thing is, he's trying avoid that step.  Sure, if you've got a  
> copy of
> your data, you don't have to worry about whether the resizer works  
> or not.
>  You've got recourse.
>
>
>> Anyway, this blanket "gurus don't do X" claim is just plain wrong.
>>
>
> Fair enough.  Make that, "I distrust such programs until reliable  
> sources
> inform me they're correctly designed an implemented."  But, you  
> know, I
> don't run softdeps, either.
>
> --jkl
>
>

There are old gurus and bold gurus, but no old, bold gurus!

Dan Killoran