Alan, On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Patrick Welche wrote: > with the p :-) > tar xzvpf new.tgz Just a quick explanation why... The "p" is to preserve the file modes. The /usr/bin/su command is setuid root; in other words, it runs with root's privileges (which is needed to become another user). Jeremy C. Reed http://bsd.reedmedia.net/