Re: cannot see ssid from hostapd

[Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost>]

matthew green <mrg%eterna23.net@localhost> writes:

>> I needed to ifconfig up the interface being used by hostapd, once I did
>
> don't feel bad.  i don't understand the rules about when things are
> up or not by default and it seems that this problem happens about
> every 5 years for me...

Indeed.

I think the rules are:

  assigning an IP address does an implicit up

  otherwise, it doesn't happen

in hindsight, not having any implicit up would probably be better, but
obviously not reasonable to change now.