Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64 is lacking vsyslog() implementation)

[Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost>]

The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,
 rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost
Cc: Chris Pinnock <cjep%netbsd.org@localhost>,
 gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,
 pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64 is
 lacking vsyslog() implementation)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:53:36 +0000

 If you can provide us an environment we might be able to put some time =
 on it.
 I=E2=80=99ll shut the PR for now. All the best, Chris
 
 > On 9 Feb 2021, at 20:40, Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost> wrote:
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 > The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by =
 GNATS.
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 > From: Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>
 > To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 > Cc:=20
 > Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because =
 Tru64
 > is lacking vsyslog() implementation)
 > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:35:40 +0000
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 > Hi Chris,
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 > Would you possibly go as far as to file a PR saying there's
 > need for a Tru64 environment to work in? I'd then look into
 > options, and possibly others would, too. I know there are
 > Alpha enthusiasts out there, possibly with a lot more free
 > time than I have.
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 > As far as I'm concerned feel free to close those old Tru64 PRs
 > I've filed as you see fit.
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 > Thanks,
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 > Sab
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 > On Tue,  9 Feb 2021 19:45:01 +0000 (UTC)
 > Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost> wrote:
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 >> The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by =
 GNATS.
 >>=20
 >> From: Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost>
 >> To: Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>
 >> Cc: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,
 >> Chris Pinnock <cjep%netbsd.org@localhost>,
 >> gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,
 >> pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 >> Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because =
 Tru64 is
 >> lacking vsyslog() implementation)
 >> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 19:41:35 +0000
 >>=20
 >> The PRs are accessible even if they are closed.
 >> We do not intend to drop support for Tru64 - the problem is we need =
 some =3D
 >> way of working on it.
 >> I do not intend to remove any logic from the pkgsrc tree.
 >> Kind regards
 >> Chris
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 >>=20
 >>> On 9 Feb 2021, at 19:37, Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost> wrote:
 >>> =3D20
 >>> Hi Chris,
 >>> =3D20
 >>> Obviously it'd have to be a pkgsrc many years more recent if we'd =
 try
 >>> again. I understand your intent of cleaning up old stale PRs, =
 however
 >>> I've got two questions:
 >>> =3D20
 >>> 1.) Will these PRs remain accessible by searching for closed PRs?
 >>> Some of the hints recorded in them might help solving issues even
 >>> with much newer versions of software as the Tru64 side is pretty
 >>> much the same as it was a few years ago?
 >>> =3D20
 >>> 2.) Will closing these PRs mean that Tru64 as a consideration
 >>> will sink from the conscious into oblivion?
 >>> =3D20
 >>> Thanks,
 >>> =3D20
 >>> Sab
 >>> =3D20
 >>> =3D20
 >>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 19:04:29 +0000
 >>> Chris Pinnock <chris_pinnock%mac.com@localhost> wrote:
 >>> =3D20
 >>>> We=3DE2=3D80=3D99d love to keep it alive if we can. Unfortunately =
 we =3D
 >> don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t have anyone with test kit at the moment, so it is =
 =3D
 >> difficult to test. The other option would be to get it working on an =
 =3D
 >> emulator somehow.
 >>>> =3D20
 >>>> Are you ok if I close this PR in the meantime? Even if we get a =
 Tru64 =3D
 >> box, we=3DE2=3D80=3D99ll need to start from scratch with the latest
 >>>> bootstrap.
 >>>> =3D20
 >>>> Kind regards
 >>>> Chris
 >>>> =3D20
 >>>>> On 9 Feb 2021, at 19:00, Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost> wrote:
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> The following reply was made to PR pkg/43726; it has been noted by =
 =3D
 >> GNATS.
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> From: Rumi Szabolcs <rumi%rtfm.hu@localhost>
 >>>>> To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 >>>>> Cc: cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost, cjep%netbsd.org@localhost, osf1-pkg-people%NetBSD.org@localhost,
 >>>>> pkgsrc-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost
 >>>>> Subject: Re: pkg/43726 (Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile =3D
 >> because Tru64
 >>>>> is lacking vsyslog() implementation)
 >>>>> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 17:40:50 +0000
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> Hi Cjep,
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> Unfortunately can't right now as my Alpha kit is tucked away in a
 >>>>> corner 1000 miles away.
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> However with this rate of response it's simply not viable to do =3D
 >> this.
 >>>>> The kit is huge, loud, and expensive to run so if I'd drag it out =
 =3D
 >> into
 >>>>> the middle of my room and managed to fire it up without tripping =
 the
 >>>>> circuit breakers we'd better have a few developers lined up to fix =
 =3D
 >> the
 >>>>> PRs quickly as they come up. There would be plenty to fix. I've =3D
 >> filed
 >>>>> a flurry of PRs back in the day when I've first attempted a =3D
 >> bootstrap
 >>>>> and didn't even get 10% of the way of compiling pkgsrc before I =
 got
 >>>>> stuck. These are my memories from many years ago.
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> It'd be nice to keep pkgsrc on Tru64 alive though as that pretty =3D=
 
 >> much
 >>>>> means keeping Tru64 alive as a viable OS.
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> Thank you for caring about Tru64/AXP!
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> Kind regards,
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> Sab
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>> On Tue,  9 Feb 2021 17:13:44 +0000 (UTC)
 >>>>> cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost wrote:
 >>>>> =3D20
 >>>>>> Synopsis: Tru64: sysutils/dbus fails to compile because Tru64 is =
 =3D
 >> lacking vsyslog() implementation
 >>>>>> =3D20
 >>>>>> Responsible-Changed-From-To: osf1-pkg-people->cjep
 >>>>>> Responsible-Changed-By: cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost
 >>>>>> Responsible-Changed-When: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:13:44 +0000
 >>>>>> Responsible-Changed-Why:
 >>>>>> Taking a look at OSF1 bugs
 >>>>>> =3D20
 >>>>>> =3D20
 >>>>>> State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
 >>>>>> State-Changed-By: cjep%NetBSD.org@localhost
 >>>>>> State-Changed-When: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:13:44 +0000
 >>>>>> State-Changed-Why:
 >>>>>> Hi - apologies this is a very old PR. Are you able to test =3D
 >> pkgsrc-current
 >>>>>> on Tru64?
 >>>>>> =3D20
 >>>>>> =3D20
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 >>>> =3D20
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