Would anyone object if I enabled: makeoptions COPTS="-O2 -fno-omit-frame-pointer" options DDB # in-kernel debugger for amd64 GENERIC? Most other arches have DDB by default, and it's been really, really annoying me that amd64 doesn't. :) If folks agree, I'll do it, and also request pullup to netbsd-4 (but not 3 or 2). +j