Subject: Re: have hp300, need keyboard
To: Gordon Ross <gwr@mc.com>
From: Jason Thorpe <thorpej@nas.nasa.gov>
List: port-hp300
Date: 02/07/1995 11:21:21
On Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:14:34 EST
"Gordon W. Ross" <gwr@mc.com> wrote:
> There is an old hp300 series machine here that I can have if I want
> it, but it is missing its keyboard and mouse. It is a desk-side unit
> with a 1-slot VME cage in the top, a CPU box, a disk box, and a tape
> box. It has RGB video outputs and a cable that produces a nice image
> when connected to a Sun color monitor. It even tries to boot, but
> asks for some keyboard interaction, so I need a keyboard.
You can use a serial console on them if you set the remote bit on the dca
(the 9-pin serial port...) On older models this was done with a switch
or jumper on the human interface board...
On newer models (375, 380, 400-series) you need to frob with an option in
the proms...
> Anyone know how to determine which model it is? (and CPU speed?)
> Where might I find a keyboard/mouse for this thing?
Lesse...Look on the main board - does it have an '020, '030, or '040? The
main board in this case is the one with the internal hpib interface, a 9-pin
serial interface, a HIL interface, possibly a LAN interface (I don't
recall the 320 having a built-in LAN), could possible have a speaker jack
also (for the HIL feeper). If you don't see a CPU/FPU on that board,
then check one of the ``memory'' boards, which will be full-size DIO-II
card if this is the case...If I remember correctly, the 360's CPU is not
on the human interface board, but rather a CPU/memory board that
connected via a ``bridge'' connector to another memory board.
If you can find the CPU, look for it's oscillator, and half the
frequency. This should be your clock speed. These are what I can dig up
from memory:
310: 16MHz 68010 (runs hp-ux 5 and PAM - bleah...)
320: 16MHz 68020 (ROMS prolly say `Rev. B')
340: 16MHz 68030
350: ??MHz 68020 (I think 25, but I'm not sure...)
360: 25MHz 68030 (I've always seen these in ``single high'' cases)
370: 33MHz 68030 (I've always seen these in ``double high'' cases)
375: 50MHz 68030 (seen these in double and single cases - they have
an L-shaped daughterboard with an '030 and '882
that sits in an '040 socket...)
345: 50MHz 68030 (these are like 375's with different cases - thin
like the old 700X Xterminal cases, longer than
other hp300's, too...say 345 on the front. Only
one ``spare'' DIO-II slot for a video board...)
380: 25MHz 68040 (these are 375's with newer roms and an '040 in
the socket instead of the daughterboard)
The memory in the 345, 375, and 380 is sort of simm-looking, but has lots
of pins (I've never counted them...) in the sockets, and corresponding
connectors on the memory-boards...They're about the same size as 36-bit
simms for EISA PCs...
As far as I can tell, the 360 and the 370 are very similar - they use the
same type of memory boards (or, at least, they look the same), etc. Not
seen a 340, but I've read about them...I think the roms on these things
said `Rev. C'...
If it were a 400-series machine, it'd say so on the front...along with
`Apollo' - go figure...
When you say ``desk side'' what do you mean? Is it like a tall, thin
tower with a lump hanging off the right side? Or, is the expansion box
totally separate from the SPU?
As to where you can get a keyboard/mouse - hmmm...HP'd prolly sell them
to you - but you'd prolly need to give up a limb or two...I no longer
have tons of them around...but, comp.sys.hp.hardware would prolly be a
good place to start...I've always been able to find HP parts there
(usually very cheap...)
Anyway - again, this is from memory - so do with it what you will - hope
it's helpful...
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