Subject: Re: Quantum ProDrive ELS
To: Andreas Brusinsky <brusinsk@ibdr.inf.tu-dresden.de>
From: Jason Thorpe <thorpej@nas.nasa.gov>
List: port-hp300
Date: 04/29/1997 08:46:59
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:22:04 +0200 (MET DST) 
 Andreas Brusinsky <brusinsk@ibdr.inf.tu-dresden.de> wrote:

 > I also reported problems about my Quantum Prodrive PD425s.
 > But this does probably have nothing to do with SCSI-2 support.

...I had problems with a Quantum disk as well, but they had nothing
to do with SCSI-2 mode.  I put the disk in SCSI-1 mode, and it still
Lost.  Certain revisions of Quantum disks are notorious for doing
certain bits of the SCSI protocol wrong...

 > But my drive still does not work although it is fully functional
 > and works on every PC I have tested it up to now - even without
 > termination.

This is probably a case of:

	(1) the firmware in the card on the PC dealing with the
	    oddities of the disk (this would be cases like aha, bha,
	    etc.)

	(2) the host driver's SCSI protocol engine can deal with the
	    oddities of the disk.

Unfortunately, the hp300 SCSI driver needs a lot of work, most notably
in the SCSI protocol engine (and in SCSI exception handling).

 > Was there a change in the SCSI driver?

...there have been a few changes, but none really in the protocol engine.

Anyhow, my point is that problem disks are typically ones with botched
protocol engines themselves, and not all disks from a particular
vendor may have those problems...

Ciao.

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