thus Bernd Sieker spake:
> On 30.05.05, 12:17:56, Jochen Kunz wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 11:15:33PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
>>
>>
>>>okay, that's the usual way. but to go there, i still have to netboot the
>>>machine, don't i?
>>
>>Ether netboot or use a helper machine and dd(1) the LIF image containing
>>installation kernel and RAM FS to the disk.
>>
>>
>>>(presuming that booting e.g. from cdrom is not possible yet.)
>>
>>This is something I'll investigate in the near future.
>>
>>
>>>so how stable does it perform in multiuser level?
>>
>>I can't tell. Usually all I do is hack kernel, boot kernel, does /
>>doesn't work, halt, hack kernel, boot kernel, ...
>>IIRC chs@ has run a build on a hp700 machine before he checked in the
>>hack to fix disk booting.
>>
>>
>>>perhaps it may give a nice little file and mail server ;)
>>
>>A perfect appliance: small, low power and noise.
> 
> 
> This is slightly off-topic for port-hp700, but if you're looking
> for a quiet Terminal with X11, take a look at a SPARCstation 4 or
> 5. Some of them have really silent fans that you hardly notice
> at all.

hm, i do have a SS20MP here as my NetBSD/sparc -current tracker, but
it's not quiet. i had a TurboSPARC SS5 before that and this was as loud
as my SS20. maybe one can change the fans to more quiet ones with equal
airflow (CFM), but i didn't do that 'til now.

> X isn't fast or deep (only 8bpp), but it works ok. I have
> set up a small Internet Cafe in our church with SS4 as diskless
> X-Terminals and a small Athlon PC in another room as application
> server.

maybe the SS4 is different from SS5 and SS20 -- IIRC it has a (much)
weaker PSU than SS5/SS20 and thus generating less noise (less things to
cool in it). my SS20 blows a very nice amount of heat out of it's left
side (tho not as much as an Indigo2 with MaxImpact -- that's my number
one on heat dissipation ;).

> 
> on-topic: Very good to see that the port is active, and I'll soon
> be able to breathe new life into my bunch of PA-RISC machines.
> (715/100XC, 712/100, B180L)

yes, i agree. those machines are very nice, especially the 712 IMHO :)

> 
> Also time to revive the Series 400 machines (esp. the 425s, soon
> to be a 433s, if only I can find a 133MHz oscillator).

cheers,

timo

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