On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:

> > > Given 64-33-x (x = Dos partition) would 31-x be enough space for X etc.?
> > 
> > Well, figure that x has to at least be the size of the bootloader and
> > NetBSD install kernel.  We're now talking approx. 7 megs.  If you can
> > install NetBSD over the network, or from a cdrom drive connected to a
> > pcmcia adapter, great!  Otherwis, tack on an addition 10 megs for the
> > small NetBSD base install package.
> 
> actually, I've been able to boot the NetBSD install kernel from the wince
> memory, on my z50 (at least I did it once...). I did have the bootloader on
> my CF disk; but I suspect that doesn't make any difference, since it should
> be all in memory at boot time anyway.	
> 	so you don't actually *need* the DOS partition on the CF disk; it's
> just conveinient, because otherwise you'd need to FTP the bootloader over
> every time you wanted to boot. :) *

I'm glad to mentioned that...  I was beginning to wonder if I was missing
something obvious.  I couldn't figure out how you managed to keep the
kernel and bootloader on the WinCE memory betwee reboots :-)

 	I myself also use the DOS partition for a copy of zterm; a little
> WinCE terminal app, which is useful for configuring routers, and
> telnet-SSL'ing to whereever you want to go. if you're just going to use your
> handheld as a network text terminal, or portable serial terminal; it may be
> easier to just use this tool, rather than wrestle with the limitations of
> NetBSD.

If I could find ssh for WinCE, I might not worry about getting NetBSD
working (though, I'd really like X, too).  However, I'm pretty far along
now, so I'm not likely to give up at this point :-)

> 	The system I have on my z50 only takes up about 47MB; including the
> compiler. so it fits pretty well within 64MB. (I don't have X on there yet;
> but it looks like a pretty reasonably-sized package.)

Wow.  That's pretty impressive.

> 	I'm interested in getting it below 32MB; since that's what a friend
> of mine has for his z50. do any compressed filesystems exist for NetBSD?
> (like the cloop one developed for the Linuxcare Bootable Buisness Card; or
> linux cramfs.) what about having a bzip2'ed fs image that gets mounted as a
> ramdisk at boot time? that would make a bit more space on disk, at the
> expense of memory.
> 	
> * has everyone else figured out that wince's IE will support
>  username/password-based FTP, if you specify it on the URL? something like
>  ftp://username:password@ftp.server.with.your.stuff
>  much more convenient than setting up an anonymous FTP server just for this.
>  :)

Actually, since I already have apache running on my desktop machine at
home, I just created a z50 directory in the Document Root, and moved all
the files into there :-)

Adam