On Oct 4, 2006, at 3:38 AM, Christian Biere wrote:

> I think, this presentation puts NetBSD in an unfair disadvantage.  
> You don't
> have to use your "old WindowMaker", that's your choice. There's KDE,  
> GNOME,
> Xfce etc. You have the choice between bloat, eye-candy and light- 
> weight
> solutions. You don't have this choice with Windows at all. I, for  
> one, never
> understood what you need a "desktop environment" for. You certainly  
> want
> interoperability between applications but beyond that I'm not a fan of
> one-size-fits-all solutions. Regarding your examples, pkgsrc has a  
> wide
> palette of those. Mail: KMail, Thunderbird, Mutt etc. Safari:  
> Fyrefawkz,
> Opera, Links etc. iCal: Well, there's Sunbird at least and cron of  
> course ;)

He already addressed GNOME.

Honestly, this is my biggest reason for not using NetBSD on a desktop  
system, as well.  Note: I wouldn't use Solaris, or Linux, or anything  
else for that matter that depended on klunky X11 apps for day-to-day  
stuff like email, calendaring, web browsing, etc.  No, text-based apps  
don't count.

KDE, GNOME, Firefox, whatever ... they all suck, IMO.  I just happen  
to like the Mac apps a whole lot better.

-- thorpej