* Jonathan A. Kollasch (jakllsch@kollasch.net) [20070224 10:39]:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:13:55AM -0800, Raymond Keller wrote:
> > Thought you might care to hear if it's not already known:  NetBSD
> > 4.0_BETA2 installs fine on a Jetway Hybrid C7 1.5G motherboard.
...
> > This is my second motherboard of this model.  The first was
> > basically DOA.  When I returned it I saw that the folks I'd bought
> > it from had a stack of maybe a couple dozen returns out of a couple
> > hundred builds...  Anyway, _this_ one is working nicely.
> 
> The Newegg reviews agree.

Well, the one review that agrees is actually _mine_.  _And_, it's
inaccurate.  Here's a revision for anyone who's following along:
    The _second_ motherboard was _not_ DOA.  The prior memory
    (Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 533) was either bad or not
    compatible.


STORY

I got a second stick of ValueSelect from a local store when testing
motherboard #1; this setup also failed.  I assumed a bad motherboard
and RMA'd #1.  (Motherboard #1 might actually be okay, and the
problem may have been either two bad sticks or incompatibility.)
When I got to the system builders' place and saw the stack of ~20
RMAs out of 200 builds I was concerned ... but got the next Jetway
anyway.  The high defect rate reassured my analysis.

I tested motherboard #2 with stick #1 -- it also failed.  I
screamed.  I went to the system builders' to return it and get an
EPIA CN10000EG, but they wouldn't take it back without the IDE cable
and faceplate.  I grabbed an EPIA and went home (a bit of a trek)
with both motherboards.  Then I called Jetway and VIA, looking for
memory compatible with both motherboards.  Both companies were
courteous and responsive, but VIA had a specific, long list.  The
intersection appeared to be Samsung, so I hunted down a stick of
Samsung DDR2 533 and found it at NCIX.


SUMMARY

  WORKS:  JetWay J7F2WE1G5D-OC-LF  with  Samsung DDR2 533  with NetBSD 4
  WORKS:  VIA EPIA CN10000EG       with  Samsung DDR2 533  with NetBSD 4


Also, the prior Jetway dmesg I posted was missing a lot of devices
because I'd turned the unnecessary ones off for power savings (which
shaved ~3 W).

Here's a dmesg for a default-configured JetWay J7F2WE1G5D-OC-LF:

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Copyright (c) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
    The NetBSD Foundation, Inc.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
    The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.

NetBSD 4.0_BETA2 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Feb 11 05:53:08 UTC 2007
	builds@b0.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-4/i386/200702090000Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-4/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
total memory = 446 MB
avail memory = 428 MB
timecounter: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
timecounter: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100
BIOS32 rev. 0 found at 0xfb570
mainbus0 (root)
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: VIA C3 (686-class), 1500.11 MHz, id 0x6a9
cpu0: features a7d9baff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,APIC,SEP,MTRR>
cpu0: features a7d9baff<PGE,CMOV,PAT,MPC,NOX,MMXX,MMX>
cpu0: features a7d9baff<FXSR,SSE,SSE2,LONG,3DNOW>
cpu0: features2 1<SSE3>
cpu0: "VIA Esther processor 1500MHz"
cpu0: I-cache 64 KB 64B/line 4-way, D-cache 64 KB 64B/line 4-way
cpu0: L2 cache 128 KB 64B/line 10-way
cpu0: ITLB 128 4 KB entries 8-way
cpu0: DTLB 128 4 KB entries 8-way
cpu0: using thermal monitor 1
cpu0: 4 page colors
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
pci0: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, rd/mult, wr/inv ok
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0
pchb0: VIA Technologies product 0x0314 (rev. 0x00)
agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0xe8000000, size 0xf500000
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1
pchb1: VIA Technologies product 0x1314 (rev. 0x00)
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2
pchb2: VIA Technologies product 0x2314 (rev. 0x00)
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3
pchb3: VIA Technologies product 0x3208 (rev. 0x00)
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4
pchb4: VIA Technologies product 0x4314 (rev. 0x00)
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7
pchb5: VIA Technologies product 0x7314 (rev. 0x00)
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0: VIA Technologies VT8377CE CPU-AGP Bridge (rev. 0x00)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pci1: i/o space, memory space enabled
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0: VIA Technologies VT3314 CN900 UniChrome Integrated Graphics (rev. 0x01)
wsdisplay0 at vga1 kbdmux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsmux1: connecting to wsdisplay0
rtk0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0: Realtek 8139 10/100BaseTX (rev. 0x10)
rtk0: interrupting at irq 11
rtk0: Ethernet address 00:30:18:b2:62:01
rlphy0 at rtk0 phy 7: Realtek internal PHY
rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fwohci0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0: VIA Technologies VT6306 IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev. 0x80)
fwohci0: interrupting at irq 5
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:30:18:00:00:a0:32:f5
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
ieee1394if0 at fwohci0: IEEE1394 bus
fwip0 at ieee1394if0: IP over IEEE1394
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
rtk1 at pci0 dev 11 function 0: Realtek 8139 10/100BaseTX (rev. 0x10)
rtk1: interrupting at irq 5
rtk1: Ethernet address 00:30:18:b2:62:00
rlphy1 at rtk1 phy 7: Realtek internal PHY
rlphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rtk2 at pci0 dev 12 function 0: Realtek 8139 10/100BaseTX (rev. 0x10)
rtk2: interrupting at irq 10
rtk2: Ethernet address 00:30:18:b2:61:ff
rlphy2 at rtk2 phy 7: Realtek internal PHY
rlphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
viaide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0
viaide0: VIA Technologies VT8237 SATA Controller (rev. 0x80)
viaide0: bus-master DMA support present
viaide0: primary channel configured to native-PCI mode
viaide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt
atabus0 at viaide0 channel 0
viaide0: secondary channel configured to native-PCI mode
atabus1 at viaide0 channel 1
viaide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1
viaide1: VIA Technologies VT8237 ATA133 controller
viaide1: bus-master DMA support present
viaide1: primary channel configured to compatibility mode
viaide1: primary channel interrupting at irq 14
atabus2 at viaide1 channel 0
viaide1: secondary channel configured to compatibility mode
viaide1: secondary channel interrupting at irq 15
atabus3 at viaide1 channel 1
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0: VIA Technologies VT83C572 USB Controller (rev. 0x81)
uhci0: interrupting at irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA Technologies UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1: VIA Technologies VT83C572 USB Controller (rev. 0x81)
uhci1: interrupting at irq 10
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA Technologies UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2: VIA Technologies VT83C572 USB Controller (rev. 0x81)
uhci2: interrupting at irq 11
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: VIA Technologies UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3: VIA Technologies VT83C572 USB Controller (rev. 0x81)
uhci3: interrupting at irq 11
usb3 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: VIA Technologies UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4: VIA Technologies VT8237 EHCI USB Controller (rev. 0x86)
ehci0: interrupting at irq 11
ehci0: BIOS refuses to give up ownership, using force
ehci0: EHCI version 1.0
ehci0: companion controllers, 2 ports each: uhci0 uhci1 uhci2 uhci3
usb4 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub4 at usb4
uhub4: VIA Technologies EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
pcib0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0
pcib0: VIA Technologies VT8237 (Apollo KT600) PCI-ISA Bridge (rev. 0x00)
auvia0 at pci0 dev 17 function 5: VIA Technologies VT8237 AC'97 Audio (rev 0x60)
auvia0: interrupting at irq 11
auvia0: ac97: VIA Technologies unknown (0x56494170) codec; headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, KS Waves 3D
auvia0: ac97: ext id 9c7<AC97_23,LDAC,SDAC,CDAC,SPDIF,DRA,VRA>
audio0 at auvia0: full duplex, mmap, independent
vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0: VIA VT6102 (Rhine II) 10/100 Ethernet
vr0: interrupting at irq 10
vr0: Ethernet address: 00:30:18:a2:cd:3e
ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface
ukphy0: OUI 0x0002c6, model 0x0032, rev. 10
ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
isa0 at pcib0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378-0x37b irq 7
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4: ns16550a, working fifo
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3: ns16550a, working fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60-0x64
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
attimer0 at isa0 port 0x40-0x43: AT Timer
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
pcppi0: children must have an explicit unit
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker (CPU-intensive output)
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
isapnp0 at isa0 port 0x279: ISA Plug 'n Play device support
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0-0xff
npx0: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2
pcppi0: attached to attimer0
isapnp0: no ISA Plug 'n Play devices found
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
ieee1394if0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
ieee1394if0: bus manager 0 (me)
timecounter: Timecounter "clockinterrupt" frequency 100 Hz quality 0
Kernelized RAIDframe activated
viaide0 port 0: device present, speed: 1.5Gb/s
wd0 at atabus0 drive 0: <SAMSUNG SP2504C>
wd0: drive supports 16-sector PIO transfers, LBA48 addressing
wd0: 232 GB, 484521 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 488397168 sectors
wd0: 32-bit data port
wd0: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 7
wd0(viaide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6 (Ultra/133) (using DMA)
boot device: wd0
root on wd0a dumps on wd0b
root file system type: ffs
WARNING: clock gained 2 days
WARNING: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!
wsdisplay0: screen 1 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 2 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 3 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 4 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
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I also booted the EPIA CN10000EG, so I'll post a dmesg for that in a
bit.


> > cpu0: VIA C3 (686-class), 1500.16 MHz, id 0x6a9
> > cpu0: features a7d9baff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,APIC,SEP,MTRR>
> > cpu0: features a7d9baff<PGE,CMOV,PAT,MPC,NOX,MMXX,MMX>
> > cpu0: features a7d9baff<FXSR,SSE,SSE2,LONG,3DNOW>
> > cpu0: features2 1<SSE3>
> 
> Ooooh, long mode, interesting.  I wonder if NetBSD/amd64 would boot.
> Oddly, this doesn't seem to be an advertised feature, hmmm.

I have no idea what the LONG feature is supposed to be, but to
answer your curiosity: NetBSD/amd64 does not boot on this
motherboard.


RSK