hmmm when compiling umoria, i get tons of errors while compiling io.c. is this becase i dont have curses? has anyone compiled this? its not in the amiga section on ftp.netbsd.org. -xiamin Technomagus artium occultarum detestibiliumque Nargumm Industries http://www.cris.com/~ingerrn http://www.netvirtual.com/iris/simon/art.html