Hi,

Let's see if we can't set you up with some Internet software so you can
put the MacOS to rest for good. ;->

On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Albert Carter wrote:

> Thank you all for all of your help.  I know have PPP up and running
> sucessfully, but I'm back to my MacOS again to write this.  I have several
> questions about internet related software.  First of all is the ircII-2.9
> found on ftp.netbsd.org what I should be using?  I've got a Mac IIsi

I don't use IRC, but I assume that should be OK for your set-up.

> running NetBSD 1.2 Generic #1 Kernal.  Second of all is there a version of
> Netscape out there that is compatible with this setup and is it fairly easy
> to set up under NetBSD also how does it run, does it work with X and how

{Un}fortunately, there is no version of Netscape that I know of that will
work with NetBSD/mac68k.  However, I have been happily using Mosaic for
some time.  You can download a pre-compiled copy at:

ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-Amiga/contrib/X11/Mosaic-2.7b3-bin11.tar.gz

Be sure to get the b3 version.  There are newer versions, but they were
compiled with Lesstif and crashed constantly on my machine.  BTW, web
browsing in b/w is not pretty.  You might also consider downloading lynx.  

For e-mail, I use a combination of POPclient and Pine.  POPclient connects
to a POP3 server and downloads your e-mail and puts it into your mailbox
on your NetBSD box.  Pine is a easy-to-use e-mail program.  You can find a
pre-compiled version of POPclient at:

ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-Amiga/contrib/popclient-2.21-bin10.tar.gz

In the same directory, you will also find a copy of archie which is
useful for searching for software.  You can find pine at:

ftp://ftp.macbsd.com/pub/NetBSD/contrib/unix/pine.tar.gz

There is a copy of lynx in the same directory as above.

> does it look in Black and White?  Also today I had a problem with PPP.  I
> needed to use the phone so while compiling ircII-2.9 the modem had
> disconnected so I picked up the phone to make my phone call.  When I tried
> to connect again it insisted that it was connected.  I tried typing in
> ppp-stop and it said it had killed pppd.  I did a ps -aux and found pppd
> still active.  So I sent a kill -1 <pid of pppd> and got no response.  I
> then sent a kill -9 <pid of pppd> and still no response.  Is pppd an
> exception to kill statement if so how do I get it restarted because it

AFAIK, you should be able to kill pppd like any other process.  Here is
the script I use (compliments of Bill Studenmund's PPP kit) to take down a
ppp connection:

--------------
#!/bin/sh
p=`cd /proc; grep -l '^pppd' */status | sed 's,^\([0-9]*\)/.*$,\1,'`
#
if [ -n "$p" ]; then
  echo -n killing pppd...
  kill $p
  echo done
else
  echo ppp already is down 1>&2
fi
---------

A hint for people with ppp problems, using X, I usually keep a shell open
with a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' running so I can see what is going on.

Mark 

> absolutely refused to work.  The other thing I'd like to get set up is a
> mail program so I can start recieving mail through unix.  Any way of doing
> this is it built into NetBSD or do I need to download something like POP3
> and set it up?

Mark Andres             E-mail: mark@giganet.net
    Running NetBSD and 100% Microsoft Free!
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