On 14:43:12 wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu wrote:

>have you tried it on the IIsi in B&W?

No, have not.  It does work when I use the B&W monitor on a
IIx.  But, it also worked on the IIx when it was full of memory in
color mode.  Now, that I've taken one bank of memory off of it
it no longer works in color.....on anything I have!  I think you're
on to something about the firmware on this older card.  Its an
Apple HiRes (hic!) but really old (maybe the initial version).  The
others I have are later models of that same card, and they do work
with only one bank in place, where this one doesn't.  Actually, the
reason I took the memory off and put it on a later version was to
use it on a later card anyway.  But then, along came the IIsi :)

Paul
>> card with only 256K of memory on it, and it doesn't work on that either!
>> Later models of that same card are fine, and so is that one if I put in more
>> memory (I know, cause I took it out to put it on another later card that had
>> only one bank).  Thing is, that later card worked fine, but only 16 colors
>> until I put the second bank in.  But this one doesn't work at all now
>> with that monitor with only one bank full.
>
>So you have two video cards, A & B, and an extra memory blob for one of the
>two.
>
>				Card A			Card B
>w/o extra memory		Dead		    only 16 colors
>w/  extra memory		Great			Great
>
>Very weird. Very, Very weird. Sounds like Card A has a firmware bug
>which doesn't deal well with insufficient memory. If I got it right
>above.
>
>Have you tried it on the IIsi set to B&W?
>
>> In another message, wb2oyc@bellatlantic.net wrote:
>> I suspect,
>> but do not know for certain that some of the 3rd party cards don't
>> use the same pinout as Apple did (such as Raster Ops).  I aked the
>> question hoping to find out if that is (or was I should say) the case.
>> I need to find the answer because I need to purchase or fabricate a
>> cable that will work with a couple of RGB (BNC connectors) montiors
>> that I also have, and I've been frustrated by not being able to find a
>> cable at any of the stores around here.
>
>I'd hope they used the same pinouts for 15-pin cables, just different
>monitor sense configurations. The video plug is documented in the
>_Guide_to_the_Macintosh_Family_Hardware_.
>
>Does anyone know of a table of monitor sense pin configurations?
>
>Take care,
>
>Bill