Hi,

Ok, I think we need more than 2 data points -)

Anyone else want to give this a shot?  You probably 
need either a full up 040 or an LC040.

For either of them could you try the softfloat
build from ftp://ftp.ziaspace.com/pub/NetBSD/m68k/current?
Does the install kernel boot?  Or, does it crash after
the md0 line.

For those of you with full up 040s could you grab a
recent build of current for mac68k and try the install kernel
as well?  If you can't find or easily build on I can build it.

Thanks very much.

cheers

bruce

"Julio M. Merino Vidal" <jmmv@menta.net> wrote:
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:39:23 +0100
> From: "Julio M. Merino Vidal" <jmmv@menta.net>
> Subject: Re: Softfloat and -current
> To: Bruce ONeel <edoneel@sdf.lonestar.org>
> Cc: port-mac68k@NetBSD.org
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:29:07 +0200
> Bruce ONeel <edoneel@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > I spent the morning annoying my office mates with 
> > mac startup chimes and I think I may have found soemthing.
> > 
> > Do you have apple talk on and the ethernet cable pluged in?
> > Could you  try with the cable unpluged?
> 
> I tried first unplugging the cable, and then disabling appletalk
> from the control panel.  And the same panic appears over and over
> again.
> 
> BTW, back when it worked, the NIC wasn't properly detected during
> NetBSD (causing complete freezes during startup), _unless_ I first
> booted MacOS and used it to make a connection somewhere.
> 
> > Basically I keep crashing too, though with 
> > different errors.  I get type1 and type2, as well
> > as fpu errors.  It seems a bit random.
> 
> Always type2 here, AFAICT.
> 
> > Some background.  PRAM batteries are very hard to replace
> > on powerbook 540s, so, I don't bother.  That means that I
> > have to set the clock on bootup.
> 
> I built one by hand using two AA batteries (not suitable for a
> laptop, I guess).  Has been working very well for ~4 months.
> I wrote about it here:
> 	http://www.livejournal.com/users/jmmv/2004/07/18/
> 
> > Before the 2.0 beta series of kernels, I had fairly consistant crashes
> > when booting with the ethernet attached.
> 
> With 2.0 + softfloat, I hardly saw any panic.  (Only freezes during the
> detection of the NIC, as explained above).
> 
> Thanks though,
> 
> -- 
> Julio M. Merino Vidal <jmmv@menta.net>
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/jmmv/
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