In article <BF638902.9EC%marina@marinahome.com.au>,
	Marina Fielke <marina@marinahome.com.au> writes:
> 
> Is there a way to run xscreensaver (and for that matter other graphical
> apps) without having to start x. I would prefer to just stay in the console
> rather then X Windows and a window manager.... I really like the
> xscreensaver modules... Particularly the fractual forest.  I suppose the
> alternative question is can you start X windows but not actually open it
> up..

I guess you still want to see the screensavers, right? So you will need
to run an X server. You can use startx to start an Xserver with just one
client, rather than a full session, by giving the client as the first
argument.  E.g.: "startx xscreensaver".

-- 
Frederick