Hi,

For what it's worth....

The newest releases run just fine with the 1.6.2 Color X server.  You need
to replace ALL of the /usr/X11R6 directory with the contents of the 1.6.2
x11 install tar files, but, if you do that, 1.6.2's X11 runs fine on
2.1 and current.

To be honest I've only tested this with my softfloat builds, but, softfloat
should have no effect if you have a FPU so the regular builds from 
ftp.netbsd.org should work just fine then as well.

cheers

bruce

On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 01:38:02PM -0500, William Duke wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Nuno Teixeira <nunotex@mac.com>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:03:40 +0000
> > To: William Duke <wduke@cogeco.ca>
> > Cc: port-mac68k@netbsd.org
> > Subject: Re: NetBSD 3 on SE/30 init not found
> > 
> > Hello William,
> > 
> > I have read your messages and I decided to use 1.6.x instead of 3.0
> > releases.
> > 
> > Just one more question: should I use 1.6.2 or should I use netbsd-1-6
> > last build (200512250000Z)?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot,
> > 
> > Nuno Teixeira
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 2005/12/24, at 22:23, William Duke wrote:
> > 
> >> I just perused the NetBSD site for information about the 3.0
> >> release that is
> >> specific to the Macintosh 68k, and here's what I found:
> >> 
> >> Changes to NetBSD/mac68k 3.0
> >> 
> >> * Support to build with soft-float enabled. [jmmv 20040926]
> >> * Non port specific changes that may affect port-mac68k.
> >> 
> >> The only change specific to the Macintosh 68k, was support for
> >> builds with
> >> soft-float enabled.  But if you look at the changes by date, you
> >> see this:
> >> 
> >> September 2004
> >> # mac68k
> >> Support to build with soft-float enabled. [jmmv 20040926]
> >> 
> >> So support to build with soft-float enabled, was added more than a
> >> year ago.
> >> 
> >> What I was really interested in, was progress on sysinst.  As you
> >> know,
> >> sysinst on the 68k Macintosh is terribly buggy, so I went looking for
> >> changes to sysinst in release 3.0.   Here's what I found:
> >> 
> >> # sysinst
> >> Added Spanish language translation. [xtraeme 20050826]
> >> 
> >> Huh?  Spanish language translation was added to a program that
> >> still doesn't
> >> work?  Where are the priorities here?  Now even the Spanish can
> >> bitch about
> >> sysinst not doing what it says it does. :(
> >> 
> >> I really can't see any reason for anybody using a 68k Macintosh, to
> >> upgrade
> >> to NetBSD release 3.0.  If you want a color X server on your 68k
> >> Macintosh,
> >> you're gonna have to run the 1.6.x X11 binaries.  If you're going
> >> to do
> >> that, you may as well just stick with the full 1.6.x release of
> >> NetBSD.
> >> 
> >> From what I've been able to gather from a quick perusal of the
> >> NetBSD site,
> >> there's not much being offered to 68k users in general, let alone
> >> the users
> >> of the 68K Macintosh.
> >> 
> >> Anyway, people gots to have choices, and choices gots to have
> >> voices...
> >> People are basically decent --- conventional wisdom would say.
> >> 
> >> Ciao
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> From: Nuno Teixeira <nunotex@mac.com>
> >>> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:52:24 +0000
> >>> To: port-mac68k@netbsd.org
> >>> Subject: NetBSD 3 on SE/30 init not found
> >>> 
> >>> Hello to all,
> >>> 
> >>> I installed NetBSD 3 on a SE/30 and it panics:
> >>> 
> >>> (generic sbc)
> >>> 
> >>> root file system type: ffs
> >>> exec /sbin/init: error 8
> >>> exec /sbin/oinit: error 2
> >>> init: trying /sbin/init.bak
> >>> exec /sbin/init.bak: error 2
> >>> init: not found
> >>> panic: no init
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> NetBSD 2.1 runs ok. Does anyone has this problem?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Nuno Teixeira
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> 
> Don't go with 1.6.x just because I say so.  If you don't want or need color,
> go with a newer release.  Especially if a newer release offers something
> that you might want or need.
> 
> If color X windows is what you're after, you can install the 1.6.x binaries
> with a 2.x.x kernel and base binaries.
> 
> Are you going to be doing anything "mission-critical" with your 68k
> Macintosh?   Are you just looking for something to play/learn with?   If the
> latter, I would definitely go with a newer release.   If you just want a
> stable 68k Macintosh installation with color X windows, I'd suggest 1.6.2.  
> 

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