Re: G3 B&W vs 7600

[Michael Lorenz <macallan%netbsd.org@localhost>]

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Hello,

On May 19, 2008, at 22:14, Al - image hosting services wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> On Mon, 19 May 2008, Michael Lorenz wrote:
> > Old world macs with bandit / copperhead chipset can do up to 50MHz
> > but not all machines are stable at that speed, a common symptom is
> > RAM getting flaky. You may need modules faster than 70ns, there's a
> > small chance the board won't run properly at 50MHz at all. G3s use a
> > completely different chipset that supports higher bus speeds.
>
> I guess that I should look for one that already has a 50MHz bus  
> speed. The
> 7350 WGS is a little bit newer, but from what I have been able to read
> only came with a bus speed of 45MHz.

Most 604e CPU cards will run the bus at something around 45MHz, most  
G3 or G4 upgrades will run it at 50MHz.

> > > > > I have also looked at the Workgroup Server 7350. That looks like
> > > > > it is
> > > > > almost the same system. Of course, I don't have one to compare.
> > > > > Would
> > > > > anyone have either of these they would like to sell?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, the Workgroup Servers were pretty much ordinary Macs with low
> > > > end graphics hardware and occasionally a SCSI card.
> > >
> > > I guess then the question would be if I would have to use a serial
> > > console?
> >
> > No, IIRC they all shipped with graphics cards and even if they didn't
> > you could always add one.
> > Those machines were ordinary macs, nothing like the Xserve. What made
> > them 'workgroup servers' was the software and hardware options they
> > came with.
>
> My question is will the graphics card work with NetBSD?

Depends on the card, but if it works as OpenFirmware console it  
should work as NetBSD console.

> Although, in the case of the 7350 WGS, if the 7300 works I can't  
> see that the 7350 wouldn't.  There were 3 different server versions  
> of the 7350 including a web server.

I bet they all use identical mainboards.

have fun
Michael

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