Re: building userland with a netbooted system

[Al <al%familysafeinternet.com@localhost>]

Hi,

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Mouse wrote:
> > > > I tried the latest 5.1 source [...]
> > > As I understand it, 5.1 is released and thus is frozen, so "latest"
> > > is pretty meaningless as applied to it.
> > I used cvs checkout -r netbsd-5-1 -P src,
>
> I'm not entirely sure what that will get you.  My guess would be 5.1.2
> plus what (probably little) has been pulled up to the branch since, but
> someone who understands the current management of branches in the CVS
> tree would be better able to speak to that.

I am really not sure either, but I need to have good source. I am not sure 
if it is the satellite internet or something wrong with the system that I 
am using to netboot that is corrupting everything.

I did another CVS after I installed to the hard drive and this time it was 
larger. I was able to finally build userland, so I think that it is good. 
I then download a new pkgsrc and I was able to build a few packages with 
it now too.

I really need to be able to verify the binaries that I install and then 
verify the source that I use.

> > In this message someone talked about raising some limits in m68k or
> > maybe just port-amiga.  Here is a link:
> > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-m68k/2012/06/13/msg000340.html
>
> I'm not entirely sure, but, as I read that, it's all about something
> 68k-specific and thus has no relevance to macppc.

But could this problem or another problem with that system be corrupting 
the nfs root. Honestly, I wonder if I don't have a failing hard drive or 
something.

> > > I dug out my macppc machine (a 7300 with a G3 CPU upgrade).  It has,
> > > as I thought, 4.0.1 on it.  I have 5.2 cross-building from amd64;
> > > once it's built I'll put it on the drive (there's plenty of spare
> > > space) and try a native build.
>
> I actually realized this would not be as useful as it could be, because
> it's 5.2 plus my assorted hackery.
>
> I've now installed stock straight-off-ftp.netbsd.org 5.2 macppc on it.
> Two installs, actually.  See below.
>
> > I should have explained this better.  I want to [...]
>
> Yeah, that's mildly complicated.  But, especially with a slow NFS
> server, you quite possibly will gets results quicker by doing the build
> on local disk and copying the resulting file(s) to the NFS server.

I want to do an install of NetBSD 5.1.2 on a Mac G3 Blue&White, do a 
source upgrade with the latest NetBSD 5.1 source, build apache, mysql, 
php, pureftp, and all the packages that I need on a server and then 
transfer the install to another G3 Blue&White that is a live web server.

> > If did the transfer now to the Blue & White that I have here, I could
> > then test to see if it would compile.  If it did, I can tar it,t
> > saving the file on another system that is here locally with ssh.
> > Then I can untar that on my local nfsd server to see if everthing
> > will be ok first, before uploading to another system.  I should be
> > able to just untar the same file on the drive, I would think.  This
> > would probably be the better solution by far.
>
> > Unless you know of a better way?
>
> Sounds reasonably sensible to me.  But of course, I can't be certain I
> have my head entirely around what you mean.

The way I described it was very complicated.

I want to transfer without a lot of downtime. I am not completely sure how 
to do it, but I was thinking of netbooting the server and then untarring 
the fresh install I just did on the server.

Thanks,
Al