... i doubt i can remember grepping for a line saying "console ... suncons" in /etc/ttys how do i change this to "vt100" or "ansi", does "stty" work for me too here? uwe: i will also try your cols/row advise, is 25x80 okay? have a nice, pappy -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net