i've just setup my sparc5, and figure this is the best time to optimize it, before it gets to work, but one quick question. > DBG= -O1 -mcpu=v8 -mtune=supersparc is -mcpu=v8 the same as -mv8 and -mtune=supersparc the same as -msupersparc? -brian -- "Oh, shut up Buddha." -Jesus Christ (South Park)