Subject: Re: RAIDframe documentation concerns
To: Timo Schoeler <timo.schoeler@riscworks.net>
From: Ryan Cresawn <cresawn@chass.utoronto.ca>
List: port-sparc64
Date: 10/24/2005 10:32:27
Timo,
Thanks for your response. I'm sure I should have mentioned that
2.0.2, with the GENERIC kernel, is the version of NetBSD/sparc64 I
used for my tests. Is that what you used?
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:48:36AM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> Ryan Cresawn wrote:
> >
> >1. In my testing I have discovered that after I have created both
> > components of the mirror I have been unable to boot from the
> > original boot disk. My solution was to create a small partition,
> > 'e', which holds the boot block and ofwboot. Has anyone
> > successfully booted an Ultra 1, an Ultra 5, or any other sparc64
> > computer from both "/dev/[sw]d0a" and "/dev/[sw]d1a" after
> > creating a RAID-1 boot disk mirror per the RAIDframe
> > documentation? I intend to recommend changes to the RAIDframe
> > documentation that reflect my testing unless someone can convince
> > me otherwise.
>
> for me it runs perfectly the way it is shown in the documentation (for
> several U1Es and U2{E}s.
>
> [for the record: i once set up an U10 and gave it a peeceeish ATA133
> controller (which wasn't supported by OF, obviously) -- this one had to
> boot from the internal IDE; i used a CF-to-IDE adapter and made the CF
> bootable :)]
It's a little surprising that your experience was so different than
mine. Take a look at this netbsd-docs mailing post, if you don't
mind, and you'll see what problems I had:
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-docs/2005/08/16/0001.html
Have you ever encountered those OpenFirmware errors? Do you have an
idea why I did?
> >2. The reason for choosing a particular dumpdev partition size is not
> > stated in the RAIDframe documentation and I believe it should be.
> > It is stated in swapctl(8); however, I believe that there are some
> > users who will not know how to properly select a size for this
> > partition and may select one which is too small. I believe the
> > RAIDframe documentation should be modified to state that the
> > dumpdev partition size should be equal to or larger than than the
> > amount of physical memory the computer has installed.
> > Furthermore, I believe it would be wise to caution users that they
> > may wish to consider the maximum amount of physical memory their
> > computer can accommodate and consider the likelihood of an upgrade
> > that would cause their dumpdev partition to be undersized. Do I
> > correctly understand dumpdev size selection? Should these
> > concerns be included in the RAIDframe documentation?
>
> i agree, IMHO this paragraph{s} lack a bit of glue to fit in well.
>
> however, i'd also recommend to add how to avoid crashdumps entirely
> (some people don't need them ;):
>
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/2005/08/19/0014.html
>
> i used this to make my machines secure very easy after they were
> colocated 600km away from home.
>
> timo
Yes, the section on swap and dumpdev partitions is confusing. I
always cross my fingers after configuring these partitions in hopes
that I've done it right. The documentation appears to offer only one
way to do it---the most sophisticated way.
Thanks for your feedback,
Ryan