Subject: Re: NetBSD-current disklabel problems
To: None <port-sparc64@NetBSD.org>
From: der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>
List: port-sparc64
Date: 07/18/2006 01:44:09
> stty erase should be ^? because [...], and because the ^H convention
> breaks emacs. doesn't just inconvenience emacs---makes it _unuseable
> with no workaround_.
...huh? I don't know what version of emacs you're talking about, but
I've never yet met a version that couldn't be taught to rebind ^H to
whatever you're expecting it to do.
> [...] you should get at least _consistency_: the fat key above return
> generates an 'stty erase'. but with some of sun's silly keyboard
> layouts that might not be as easy as it sounds.
That assumes there *is* a "fat key above return". On a very informal
poll I just took of the keyboards within sight, it's a decent guess,
and, amusingly, the one keyboard that clearly falsifies it is a peecee
keyboard, not a Sun keyboard.
- Sun type-3: Sort of. "Return" is a 2½-width key in the middle letter
row, and the key above the right-hand about-two-thirds of it is
"Delete". But "Delete" is in the top letter row, not the digit row
or higher. There is a "Back Space" key, but it is in the row above
the digits and is only one key wide. (The key between "Back Space"
and "Delete" is the `-and-~ key.)
- Peecee keyboard 1: Yes. "Return" is a double-row key, occupying
approximately 2½ keys of space on the middle letter row and 1½ keys
of space on the top letter row. The key above it is "Backspace".
- Peecee keyboard 2: Sort of. "Enter" is abotu 2½ keys wide on the
middle letter row. Above it is \-and-|, about 1½ keys wide. Above
that is "Backspace", about two keys wide. Each is single-row.
- HP 46021A: Sort of. Very much like peecee keyboard 2, except that
the keys aren't quite as wide, and their right ends are depressed so
the effective typing surface is narrower yet - \-and-| is only about
one key wide at the effective height.
- Old Mac "Apple Extended Keyboard II": Sort of. Very much like peecee
keyboard 2.
- DEC LK401-AA: Yes. "Return" is dual-row, about one key wide on the
middle letter row and 4/3 keys wide on the top letter row. Above
it, on the digit row, is a key with a logo I cannot easily render
here, an X inside a pentagon rather like a square with a 1-1-sqrt(2)
right triangle erected with its hypotenuse being the left edge of
the square. <X] gives a moderately fair idea in the font I'm using.
- Peecee keyboard 3: Sort of. Like peecee keyboard 2.
- Peecee keyboard 4: No. "Return" is dual-row, about 7/3 keys wide on
the middle letter row and about 3/2 keys wide on the row above that.
Above that there is nothing other than one key wide. There is a
back-arrow key in approximately the conventional backspace position,
but it is only one key wide.
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