David Brownlee wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Rick Kelly wrote:
> 
> > So I've been running -current on a Sun 3/50 with 12 megs.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > I can use SSH1 with this machine, but SSH2 times out as the system
> > frantically pages.
> >
>         ssh2 is really too heavy for a low end sparc, let alone a sun3 :/

To add to Greg's comment, ssh2 is OK on my SS1+ - just the connect time
is annoying. But it's also a bit annoying (if shorter) with ssh1.

> 
> > [...]
> > I think that the days of NetBSD/sun3 will soon close for the Sun 3/50, of
> > course their are earlier versions that run well.
> 
>         NetBSD has only just made it onto the acorn26 and sun2 platforms,
>         so if anything the minimum spec is getting lower not higher...

That's more a matter of coincidence, I'd say; the older, leaner kernels
are arguably better suited to the bottom end. When can I run NetBSD on
my PDP-11 :) ?

Toby

> 
>         I agree the base system is getting larger - IPv6 was a large chunk
>         in itself - and a GENERIC kernel is no longer bootable for many
>         smaller machines, but if people are willing to spend the time to
>         help better conditionalise the kernel it can benefit everyone.
> 
>         An obvious place to start would be to compile up a custom kernel,
>         run size on *.o in the compile directory, and work out where a
>         bunch os space is being used. Alternatively look at shrinking
>         some of the hash tables and similar used in the kernel.
> --
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