Subject: Re: VAX-11/78[05] hardware info wanted
To: Eric Smith <eric@brouhaha.com>
From: Anders Magnusson <ragge@ludd.luth.se>
List: port-vax
Date: 03/18/2000 15:00:01
> With the help of three friends, I just rescued an 11/785 from being
> scrapped. Eventually I want to run NetBSD on it. Unfortunately I did not
> get any hardware docs with it. So I have a few questions:
>
> 1) Does anyone have spare hardware docs? Maintenance manual, reference
> manual, prints, fiche, anything? I'd be happy to pay for copying and
> postage.
>
I think all docs I have has gone to /dev/null, but I have a very
good memory :-)
> 2) The machine only has 2 megabytes of memory. Are there any good, cheap
> sources of suitable memory? It appears that SBI can support 512
> megabytes of RAM; what were the biggest memory systems offered?
>
2MB in a 785? Are you sure? IIRC the smallest memory size on it was 4MB,
but I may be wrong. (Smallest on 780 was 64k :-)
> 3) Does the 785 use the same CPU and FPA backplane(s)? I know the cards
> are totally different, but was the 780 to 785 upgrade just a card swap?
>
Not just a card swap; you had to change the CPU box. But the SBI
is the same.
> 4) The 780 apparently had 4K*96 (plus parity) of PROM control store,
> 2K of WDCS (writable diagnostic control store), and optionally
> (KU780) 2K of user writable control store. It appears that the
> control store configuration of the 785 is different; does it support
> user writable control store? Are the same tools used to develop
> 780 and 785 microcode?
>
I think you need a separate card if you want space for user-writable
control store.
PROM control store? Isn't all microcode loaded from the RX01 floppy?
> There's some chance that I may be able to get a second 785 soon. I wonder
> if the 785s can be converted to a dual processor system on a single SBI, as
> George Goble and Michael Marsh did at CMU:
> http://ghg.ecn.purdue.edu/vax/paper.html
>
Well, that should work in just the same way, but I think it will be hard
for you to find any OS that supports it :-)
-- Ragge