Is talk or talkd running setuid root ? If so it is probably setting the real uid rather than the effective uid (or vice versa) (this woould be a fairly common bug, but talk should be long since debugged weird) --Chuck At 07:14 PM 7/18/00 +0200, nbsd@righi.dhs.org wrote: >I have just done a test right now >IT happens to me with every user.